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Posted By: Canazes9 Jard Trigger for Kimber 84m? - 12/14/16
I didn't receive any responses in the hunting rifles section below.

Anyone have any experience with them or Jard triggers in general?

Thanks,

David
Top notch! I have them in all of my Kimbers. The factory ones are nice as well but the Jard is an upgrade IMHO!
Originally Posted by hunting1
Top notch! I have them in all of my Kimbers. The factory ones are nice as well but the Jard is an upgrade IMHO!


Thanks for the response!

What weight did you go with? I was thinking 22ounces....


David
I have 22 ounce on all of mine.
Posted By: Huntz Re: Jard Trigger for Kimber 84m? - 12/14/16
Fixing something thats not broke.
Originally Posted by Huntz
Fixing something thats not broke.


Pound sand.

David
Guess I'll pound sand also. All 5 of my Kimber rifles have crisp clean triggers at 3 lbs.
Originally Posted by sidepass
Guess I'll pound sand also. All 5 of my Kimber rifles have crisp clean triggers at 3 lbs.


Please do.

And the wave of folks coming behind you.

If I wanted a 3 pound trigger I wouldn't have asked about the Jard.

David
highball glass full of ice.
One part Mexican coke
4 parts kraken rum.
Lighten up a little and quit being so defensive brother.

Im happy with the triggers on my Montana's but if you want better, more power to ya.
Had a jard in a 700 I had years ago. Nice trigger. I have mostly Timney in my Remington's though, except for a shilen in a 40xr, so I'm no trigger snob.
What's the lightest pull a Kimber trigger can safely be taken to?
I'm not one to tell a guy what he should have, but I've got all my Kimber triggers set between 18-24 oz, and they break like glass...
Schidt man. Mine are both at 1.5 lbs. Wouldn't think of changing them.
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
I'm not one to tell a guy what he should have, but I've got all my Kimber triggers set between 18-24 oz, and they break like glass...


Originally Posted by Higbean
Schidt man. Mine are both at 1.5 lbs. Wouldn't think of changing them.




So no actual experience with the Jard trigger in a Kimber 84m?

I started a thread just for you two and the other helpful individuals in this thread:

Should I buy a Jard trigger for my Kimber 84m or


Enjoy!


David
My Kimber trigger is good, such that I don't see the need for aftermarket parts.

My experience with a Jard fire control assembly for the 10-22 wasn't that impressive. The ones I rebuilt with Clark and Volquartsen parts were much better, cleaner breaking without creep.

IMO,

DF
Posted By: T_O_M Re: Jard Trigger for Kimber 84m? - 12/15/16
Like DF, the triggers on the 3 Kimbers I've owned were good, easily adjusted to around 20 ounces, which I find adequate for hunting triggers.

My experience with the Jard 10/22 trigger was different, though. I have the 1 pound version and it's really really really good, way better than any I've shot that were rebuilt with aftermarket parts and way better than the Volquartsen triggers I've shot. It's possible I got the only good one they ever made, but I absolutely definitely got a good one.

My experience with other Jard products has been very poor. I've done 700 triggers with their parts. I've had one of their replacement units. I can't recommend them and won't buy any more.

Tom
Originally Posted by Canazes9
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
I'm not one to tell a guy what he should have, but I've got all my Kimber triggers set between 18-24 oz, and they break like glass...


Originally Posted by Higbean
Schidt man. Mine are both at 1.5 lbs. Wouldn't think of changing them.




So no actual experience with the Jard trigger in a Kimber 84m?

I started a thread just for you two and the other helpful individuals in this thread:

Should I buy a Jard trigger for my Kimber 84m or


Enjoy!


David


David,

What's with the attitude? It is unlike you to be so aggressive. As I said before, I'm not one to tell other guys what they should have, I simply stated my experience, which seemed very relevant to your question about replacing your Kimber trigger. I get the impression that you're frustrated with yours, did you get a dud from the factory? Sorry I can't help with any advice/experience with Jard triggers...
Originally Posted by Canazes9
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
I'm not one to tell a guy what he should have, but I've got all my Kimber triggers set between 18-24 oz, and they break like glass...


Originally Posted by Higbean
Schidt man. Mine are both at 1.5 lbs. Wouldn't think of changing them.




So no actual experience with the Jard trigger in a Kimber 84m?

I started a thread just for you two and the other helpful individuals in this thread:

Should I buy a Jard trigger for my Kimber 84m or


Enjoy!


David


The part where you have a #3 trigger is why I chimed in. You do know that the Kimber is adjustable, right?

If you look on the bottom of the stock there are two screws with allen heads. One is in the trigger guard and the other is forward of that. Lefty loosey. This will allow the removal from the stock. If you have any trouble, pm Ringman.

From there it gets a bit complicated so you might wanna ask in the gunsmithing section.
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by Canazes9
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
I'm not one to tell a guy what he should have, but I've got all my Kimber triggers set between 18-24 oz, and they break like glass...


Originally Posted by Higbean
Schidt man. Mine are both at 1.5 lbs. Wouldn't think of changing them.




So no actual experience with the Jard trigger in a Kimber 84m?

I started a thread just for you two and the other helpful individuals in this thread:

Should I buy a Jard trigger for my Kimber 84m or


Enjoy!


David


David,

What's with the attitude? It is unlike you to be so aggressive. As I said before, I'm not one to tell other guys what they should have, I simply stated my experience, which seemed very relevant to your question about replacing your Kimber trigger. I get the impression that you're frustrated with yours, did you get a dud from the factory? Sorry I can't help with any advice/experience with Jard triggers...



Jordan

It's pretty simple - I asked a specific question about a specific piece of equipment. In response people that have zero experience with that equipment come out in droves to tell me what I should be doing instead of looking at that equipment.

David
Originally Posted by Higbean
Originally Posted by Canazes9
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
I'm not one to tell a guy what he should have, but I've got all my Kimber triggers set between 18-24 oz, and they break like glass...


Originally Posted by Higbean
Schidt man. Mine are both at 1.5 lbs. Wouldn't think of changing them.




So no actual experience with the Jard trigger in a Kimber 84m?

I started a thread just for you two and the other helpful individuals in this thread:

Should I buy a Jard trigger for my Kimber 84m or


Enjoy!


David


The part where you have a #3 trigger is why I chimed in. You do know that the Kimber is adjustable, right?

If you look on the bottom of the stock there are two screws with allen heads. One is in the trigger guard and the other is forward of that. Lefty loosey. This will allow the removal from the stock. If you have any trouble, pm Ringman.

From there it gets a bit complicated so you might wanna ask in the gunsmithing section.


Where did I state that I had a 3 pound trigger or that I didn't know how to adjust the existing trigger?

David
Posted By: Kaleb Re: Jard Trigger for Kimber 84m? - 12/15/16
Originally Posted by Higbean
Originally Posted by Canazes9
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
I'm not one to tell a guy what he should have, but I've got all my Kimber triggers set between 18-24 oz, and they break like glass...


Originally Posted by Higbean
Schidt man. Mine are both at 1.5 lbs. Wouldn't think of changing them.




So no actual experience with the Jard trigger in a Kimber 84m?

I started a thread just for you two and the other helpful individuals in this thread:

Should I buy a Jard trigger for my Kimber 84m or


Enjoy!


David


The part where you have a #3 trigger is why I chimed in. You do know that the Kimber is adjustable, right?

If you look on the bottom of the stock there are two screws with allen heads. One is in the trigger guard and the other is forward of that. Lefty loosey. This will allow the removal from the stock. If you have any trouble, pm Ringman.

From there it gets a bit complicated so you might wanna ask in the gunsmithing section.


Lol pm ringman....

Clarkm is pretty handy with customizing rifles too.
Buy a Timney Calvin and send it to boomer. He likes [bleep] with Kimbers
I do have experience with one & I answered in your other thread.
Jim D
Originally Posted by Canazes9
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by Canazes9
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
I'm not one to tell a guy what he should have, but I've got all my Kimber triggers set between 18-24 oz, and they break like glass...


Originally Posted by Higbean
Schidt man. Mine are both at 1.5 lbs. Wouldn't think of changing them.




So no actual experience with the Jard trigger in a Kimber 84m?

I started a thread just for you two and the other helpful individuals in this thread:

Should I buy a Jard trigger for my Kimber 84m or


Enjoy!


David


David,

What's with the attitude? It is unlike you to be so aggressive. As I said before, I'm not one to tell other guys what they should have, I simply stated my experience, which seemed very relevant to your question about replacing your Kimber trigger. I get the impression that you're frustrated with yours, did you get a dud from the factory? Sorry I can't help with any advice/experience with Jard triggers...



Jordan

It's pretty simple - I asked a specific question about a specific piece of equipment. In response people that have zero experience with that equipment come out in droves to tell me what I should be doing instead of looking at that equipment.

David


There's a reason people are telling you how good the factory trigger is, and given that you don't seem willing to provide the backstory or reasoning for your inquiry, it's no wonder people are giving you the advice that they are. Your responses have been pretty belligerent, which I haven't seen from you before. There's simply no need for that. People offer answers to questions free of charge, and the opinions are worth what you paid for them. It's not unusual for people to comment with related information when a specific question is asked. That's what discussion forums are for. Good luck.
I can understand the frustration but the fact is, if you don't like the factory trigger, you only got one move. Two moves if you count complaining on the internet.
Originally Posted by Higbean
Buy a Timney Calvin and send it to boomer. He likes [bleep] with Kimbers


HEY! I resemble that insinuation! I'll take a Calvin Elite - for a Remington please. My Kimber trigger is UBER! Good luck David. Might ask Trystan. wink
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by Canazes9
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by Canazes9
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
I'm not one to tell a guy what he should have, but I've got all my Kimber triggers set between 18-24 oz, and they break like glass...


Originally Posted by Higbean
Schidt man. Mine are both at 1.5 lbs. Wouldn't think of changing them.




So no actual experience with the Jard trigger in a Kimber 84m?

I started a thread just for you two and the other helpful individuals in this thread:

Should I buy a Jard trigger for my Kimber 84m or


Enjoy!


David


David,

What's with the attitude? It is unlike you to be so aggressive. As I said before, I'm not one to tell other guys what they should have, I simply stated my experience, which seemed very relevant to your question about replacing your Kimber trigger. I get the impression that you're frustrated with yours, did you get a dud from the factory? Sorry I can't help with any advice/experience with Jard triggers...



Jordan

It's pretty simple - I asked a specific question about a specific piece of equipment. In response people that have zero experience with that equipment come out in droves to tell me what I should be doing instead of looking at that equipment.

David


There's a reason people are telling you how good the factory trigger is, and given that you don't seem willing to provide the backstory or reasoning for your inquiry, it's no wonder people are giving you the advice that they are. Your responses have been pretty belligerent, which I haven't seen from you before. There's simply no need for that. People offer answers to questions free of charge, and the opinions are worth what you paid for them. It's not unusual for people to comment with related information when a specific question is asked. That's what discussion forums are for. Good luck.



Jordan,

I missed it where you (and others) asked about why I was considering the Jard trigger before you pointed that I just needed to adjust the factory Kimber trigger to get the pull weight in the range of the Jard trigger I was asking about. Please feel free to point them out to me. I also missed the forum rules page that required me to give a full detailed report on my issue with the current trigger prior to asking others about their experiences with an aftermarket replacement unit.

David
DF & T_O_M

I appreciate your input on Jard in general.




gonesouth,

I appreciate your response, that's a little concerning.


David
Originally Posted by Higbean
I can understand the frustration but the fact is, if you don't like the factory trigger, you only got one move. Two moves if you count complaining on the internet.


Wrong again.

David
Originally Posted by Canazes9
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by Canazes9
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by Canazes9


So no actual experience with the Jard trigger in a Kimber 84m?

I started a thread just for you two and the other helpful individuals in this thread:

Should I buy a Jard trigger for my Kimber 84m or


Enjoy!


David


David,

What's with the attitude? It is unlike you to be so aggressive. As I said before, I'm not one to tell other guys what they should have, I simply stated my experience, which seemed very relevant to your question about replacing your Kimber trigger. I get the impression that you're frustrated with yours, did you get a dud from the factory? Sorry I can't help with any advice/experience with Jard triggers...



Jordan

It's pretty simple - I asked a specific question about a specific piece of equipment. In response people that have zero experience with that equipment come out in droves to tell me what I should be doing instead of looking at that equipment.

David


There's a reason people are telling you how good the factory trigger is, and given that you don't seem willing to provide the backstory or reasoning for your inquiry, it's no wonder people are giving you the advice that they are. Your responses have been pretty belligerent, which I haven't seen from you before. There's simply no need for that. People offer answers to questions free of charge, and the opinions are worth what you paid for them. It's not unusual for people to comment with related information when a specific question is asked. That's what discussion forums are for. Good luck.



Jordan,

I missed it where you (and others) asked about why I was considering the Jard trigger before you pointed that I just needed to adjust the factory Kimber trigger to get the pull weight in the range of the Jard trigger I was asking about. Please feel free to point them out to me. I also missed the forum rules page that required me to give a full detailed report on my issue with the current trigger prior to asking others about their experiences with an aftermarket replacement unit.

David


You also missed the fact that I didn't say or suggest that you needed to do anything; I simply commented on my experience with the factory trigger.

And since you missed the part where I asked about your issues with the factory trigger, here it is:

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
I get the impression that you're frustrated with yours, did you get a dud from the factory?


Another thing you missed in the forum rules page is that guys are free to make relevant comments all they want. No need for you to attack them. The topic involves Kimber trigger options, and guys have stated their experiences with the various options. Most guys don't have experience with the Jard trigger because they are almost always unnecessary on Kimber rifles.
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith


You also missed the fact that I didn't say or suggest that you needed to do anything; I simply commented on my experience with the factory trigger.

And since you missed the part where I asked about your issues with the factory trigger, here it is:

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
I get the impression that you're frustrated with yours, did you get a dud from the factory?


Another thing you missed in the forum rules page is that guys are free to make relevant comments all they want. No need for you to attack them. The topic involves Kimber trigger options, and guys have stated their experiences with the various options. Most guys don't have experience with the Jard trigger because they are almost always unnecessary on Kimber rifles.


That's a handy bunch of self serving misrepresentations of our exchanges to this point.

Still no relevant experience to offer regarding the Jard trigger then?

David
Posted By: Kaleb Re: Jard Trigger for Kimber 84m? - 12/15/16
Lol.....Jordan has been as nice and polite as can be and dude is still acting like a prick.

All this over because people are telling you the trigger you have is very good. Thank goodness no one ask about long action or short action.
Jarad's has nice jewelry, not sure about their triggers....
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Jarad's has nice jewelry, not sure about their triggers....


grin You ornery SOB.
Posted By: Huntz Re: Jard Trigger for Kimber 84m? - 12/15/16
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Jarad's has nice jewelry, not sure about their triggers....


I thought Jarred was fired for boy love???
He was, but it was a set up. Kimber triggered it.
Jarred did lose weight. Not sure he ever got down to 22 oz. though
Originally Posted by Huntz
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Jarad's has nice jewelry, not sure about their triggers....


I thought Jarred was fired for boy love???


And hunted a .270
Originally Posted by Canazes9
Originally Posted by Higbean
I can understand the frustration but the fact is, if you don't like the factory trigger, you only got one move. Two moves if you count complaining on the internet.


Wrong again.

David


Someone making an aftermarket trigger other than Jard? News to me.

I'm cool with being wrong. You can call me and yell if you want. Just hurry up and go back to being the cool David we all pretended to like as soon as you can so we can stop busting your balls.
(Insert picture of 460 Weatherby and dead rabbit here.)
Originally Posted by kingston
(Insert picture of 460 Weatherby and dead rabbit here.)
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wink
Originally Posted by kingston
(Insert picture of 460 Weatherby and dead rabbit here.)

You mean wabbit...

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by kingston
(Insert picture of 460 Weatherby and dead rabbit here.)

You mean wabbit...

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I've upgraded since then. wink
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You buy the Jard yet?
This thread clearly now belongs in the optics forum.
Eat a snickers...
Zing!
I strongly suggest you buy a Jard. I've never heard anything bad about them.

I'd have one myself but I don't see the point of shooting groups smaller than one ragged hole.

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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by kingston
(Insert picture of 460 Weatherby and dead rabbit here.)

You mean wabbit...

[Linked Image]
I've upgraded since then. wink
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Express wabbit slayer...?

Big double. Need details.

DF
That is Paladin's Merkel .470 NE. Shot it two years ago at a Armijio Springs rondy. Those are the "light loads" being shot.


This is the heavy loads in the .470 NE.
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Helped a good bud work up loads for a Merkel .500 NE.

Drifting a tad from OP's Jard trigger question... blush

DF
Would like to shoot a .500 NE,one of these days.
Just a big push, IMO less punishing than a .300 Wby.

It has a lot to do with the velocity of recoil, how fast it comes at you, weight of the gun, stock fit, etc.

I was able to put bullets where I wanted without a problem.

DF
.500NE loaded with 750 Amax would make a nice walking varminter.
Tough on them NM jackwabbits, no doubt.

May over penetrate... shocked

DF
Hey Canazes, what did you end up doing?
Originally Posted by Higbean
Hey Canazes, what did you end up doing?


Nothing yet. Will probably drop the factory trigger w/ my smith to be stoned, next time I make it over to his AO.

David
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Tough on them NM jackwabbits, no doubt.

May over penetrate... shocked

DF
Blood trail. wink
Originally Posted by jackmountain
.500NE loaded with 750 Amax would make a nice walking varminter.

That would trump a .223AI... shocked

DF
If only the nitro had a shoulder to AI........ You could gain at least 500fps.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
If only the nitro had a shoulder to AI........ You could gain at least 500fps.

laugh

That could get hard to hold onto... whistle

DF
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Tough on them NM jackwabbits, no doubt.

May over penetrate... shocked

DF
Blood trail. wink


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