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Posted By: anie low recoil ammo 6.5 creedmore - 11/29/17
have a 70 pound young man who wants to try a 6.5 cm , is there a factory load in ligt recoil ammo
as i do not reload?

Thanks for any help
Posted By: JPro Re: low recoil ammo 6.5 creedmore - 11/29/17
I have not seen any on the market, and Midway does not show any. I'd likely just try some 120-125gr ammo like the Deer Season XP and see what he thinks about it.
The creed is a somewhat light recoiling cartridge to begin with. Find ammo with the lightest bullet you can and have the young man fire away!
My 10 year old niece who may weigh 60#'s shoots my 6.5 Creedmoor with no problem with Hornady Precision Hunter Ammo........just teach them how to shoot the gun properly...he'll have no problem!!

The 6.5 Creedmoor is a great round all together, especially for kids!!
Standard loads are pretty close to 243. How much less do they need.
Granddaughter shoots a Creed, she weighed maybe 80 when she shot this deer.



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She's probably tougher than alot of people that post here though Hanco. You'd have to be proud as hell of her!
2nd on that observation. Lots of pride in Hanco's post and photo. Well done, young lady!
Originally Posted by anie
have a 70 pound young man who wants to try a 6.5 cm , is there a factory load in ligt recoil ammo
as i do not reload?

Thanks for any help

As has been mentioned, the CM is pretty light recoiling anyway. Have him put a hunting coat on and give it a go. I suspect he'll look at you and smile broadly.
I second the light load stuff, but not the barnes 120grain VOR-TX load. Barnes loads although lighter are hot, and kick like a mule when you go weight for caliber for some reason.

the 150's and 165's in my 300WSM kick harder than 3 different 180gr. loads I've put through the same gun.
Why not reload with reduced loadings?
Well, he doesn't reload.

Don't even have a Creed yet, but yesterday noticed at Wally Whirled saw that Winchester Deer Season load is less than $18 per box.

Couple that with current rebate of $5 per box means I can get 200 rounds and kill a lot of stuff for 73 cents a shot.

Yes, this may be the first time I buy ammo for a rifle I don't have!

In the OP's case, however, he can splurge less than $13 a box to see if the youngster can handle it.

Or get somebody that loads to roll him some 100 gr. BTs at about 2,800 fps.

My youngest was a trapshooter at 11 and 75 pounds. He picked my .350 RM to kill his first deer because it kicked less than his 12 ga.

Why are you worried about the recoil? Has he shot bigger guns and whined about it? I have seen little girls shoot .308s and whatever, because they were not taught to fear the recoil. If you make a big deal about it, then the kid will, too. If he cannot handle a Creed, then maybe he had better stick to computer games. The Creed is about as mild as it gets, with 120ish-grain bullets, unless you short-change him and drop down to a .22 caliber center-fire.
Originally Posted by hanco
Granddaughter shoots a Creed, she weighed maybe 80 when she shot this deer.



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Originally Posted by hanco
Granddaughter shoots a Creed, she weighed maybe 80 when she shot this deer.



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Hanco,
Outstanding! Just look at that young lady's smile. Maybe the future of hunting in this country will be OK. 😎
Hornady makes a Precision Hunter 6.5 Creed with a 103 gr bullet, somewhere around $30 a box.
Originally Posted by czech1022
Hornady makes a Precision Hunter 6.5 Creed with a 103 gr bullet, somewhere around $30 a box.


are you sure that is either a 123 grain bullet? or are you confusing it with the 6mm Creedmoor which Hornady makes a 103 grain bullet for the 243/ 6mm calibers?
Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by czech1022
Hornady makes a Precision Hunter 6.5 Creed with a 103 gr bullet, somewhere around $30 a box.


are you sure that is either a 123 grain bullet? or are you confusing it with the 6mm Creedmoor which Hornady makes a 103 grain bullet for the 243/ 6mm calibers?




neither.

creedmoor is 143 eld-x
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If he cannot handle a Creed, then maybe he had better stick to computer games. The Creed is about as mild as it gets, . . . .


I'm glad somebody said this ^^^.
Originally Posted by sbhooper
Why are you worried about the recoil? Has he shot bigger guns and whined about it? I have seen little girls shoot .308s and whatever, because they were not taught to fear the recoil. If you make a big deal about it, then the kid will, too. If he cannot handle a Creed, then maybe he had better stick to computer games. The Creed is about as mild as it gets, with 120ish-grain bullets, unless you short-change him and drop down to a .22 caliber center-fire.




Originally Posted by WiFowler
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If he cannot handle a Creed, then maybe he had better stick to computer games. The Creed is about as mild as it gets, . . . .


I'm glad somebody said this ^^^.



And people wonder why kids/women/new people don't want to hunt and shoot....
I am starting to think that the 6.5 or 6 would be a good way for my daughter to start.

A lighter recoil load would be swell.

I started with a M94 30-30. I wont do that to her!

I suspect that with a rifle light enough to be comfortable for a kid, a full power Creedmoor round would have some recoil.
Dickheads abound. The guy asked a simple question and a youngster got beat up for it. Huzzah
Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Originally Posted by sbhooper
Why are you worried about the recoil? Has he shot bigger guns and whined about it? I have seen little girls shoot .308s and whatever, because they were not taught to fear the recoil. If you make a big deal about it, then the kid will, too. If he cannot handle a Creed, then maybe he had better stick to computer games. The Creed is about as mild as it gets, with 120ish-grain bullets, unless you short-change him and drop down to a .22 caliber center-fire.




Originally Posted by WiFowler
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If he cannot handle a Creed, then maybe he had better stick to computer games. The Creed is about as mild as it gets, . . . .


I'm glad somebody said this ^^^.



And people wonder why kids/women/new people don't want to hunt and shoot....

This.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I am starting to think that the 6.5 or 6 would be a good way for my daughter to start.

A lighter recoil load would be swell.

I started with a M94 30-30. I wont do that to her!

I suspect that with a rifle light enough to be comfortable for a kid, a full power Creedmoor round would have some recoil.


I think the creed would be fine for a kid. Even more so if you out a brake on it.
Posted By: anie Re: low recoil ammo 6.5 creedmore - 12/05/17
hey its easy to be a big shot on the campfire, thanks 4 the replys
The 6.5 Creedmoor in a light rifle with full power loads kicks plenty hard ~15 lbs, whereas a 243 will be around 10.

The Creed kicks harder than I would've wanted to shoot when I weighed 70 lbs, but maybe I was one of the kids who should've just stuck to computer games.
Originally Posted by anie
hey its easy to be a big shot on the campfire, thanks 4 the replys


anie, sadly if you don't handload, the market hasn't gotten any real products that would fit your needs..

I shoot a 260 ( several rifles in the chambering)... but I hand load..

first deer I took, was at 300 yds with the cartridge, and the load was a 100 grain ballistic tip
handload....

the scope was on 4 power, and was a Leupold with a target dot on the reticle.. and I was
shooting off the hood of an F 250 as a rest...

recoil was low enough, I never lost site picture in the scope, when I pulled the trigger..

was able to watch the deer drop like a sack of potatoes thru the scope...

don't know if that helps, but with lighter bullets it does show the reduction in recoil
that is possible with the 260 or 6.5 Creedmoor...

my rifle was a Ruger 77 Mk2 with the Zytel "Boat Paddle" stock at the time...

as a shooting instructor and counselor for Boy Scouts, I download a lot of handloaded ammo
for kids to shoot.. so I can offer that solution if you find someone to do it for you...

sadly the factories don't... because the market probably isn't that big for them to make any
profit on it...
No factory low recoil ammo currently for the 6.5 CM. Maybe switch to a 7mm-08 or 308 as there are a few different low recoil load options. Or get someone to load a 100 gr bullet with H4895 starting at 60% of the maximum charge per Hodgdon recommendation for youth hunting loads. 30 gr of H4895 should get a Nosler 100 gr BT moving about 2600 fps with very mild recoil.

I would imagine Hornady will make a Custom Lite load sometime in the future as they do for the 243, 7mm-08, 308 and others but no telling how long that might be.
A friend and I have both just started shooting Creedmores this year. I have only been shooting hand loads but I can tell you that 120 loads have much milder recoil than full effort 140 grain loads do. I know Hornady is selling 129 grain loaded ammo. I'm not sure if 120 grain factory loads are on the market yet....

Good on you for helping a kid out.... My wife is known in our community as a very successful deer hunter. A young woman she works with has asked to be mentored in deer hunting. She has not shot hi powered rifles before. The max loads of Reloader 17 and 140 grain bullets that my friend and I have been shooting have noticeably more recoil than I would choose to start a new shooter with. I am going to load some lighter bullets a bit below max for her to start with. It is way easier to develop a flinch than to learn to over come one.

Please ignore the few bonehead posts made on this topic and report back with the results!
Originally Posted by WiFowler
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If he cannot handle a Creed, then maybe he had better stick to computer games. The Creed is about as mild as it gets, . . . .


I'm glad somebody said this ^^^.


That makes both of you idiots but that's normally expected from dumb azzes
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