Home
Posted By: RIO7 Spotter-Help ?? - 05/15/17
Am having a hell of a time shooting long when I don't have a spotter, I am having a hard time spotting my misses and where I am missing, wind always blows so I am used to the wind some days it's not to hard to read as others, but when the bullet hits the dirt and the dust fly's up, by the time I recover from the recoil I can't tell for sure where I hit. sure makes making adjustments hard, anyone else ever have this problem ?? Rio 7
Posted By: MontanaMarine Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/15/17
That's why I put muzzle brakes on my LR rifles. Even though they are 308 and 30-06. I can easily spot my own hits/misses.
Posted By: MontanaMarine Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/15/17
I went with the Thruster brake from Badger Ordnance.

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]



There are fancier brakes out there, but the guidance I would offer if you go the brake route, is to choose a design with side-discharge ports.

The brakes with radial ports can kick up a lot of dirt/dust in dry country if you are down on the ground.


Posted By: Ringman Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/15/17
Generally long range shooting is modern. The new brake designs are also modern. You want to see your hits use a side port brake. The other day I was using someone else's rifle that didn't fit at all. In fact I had to switch to shooting angled to the rifle and use my non-trigger hand on the comb for my face weld in order to look though the center of the scope. And yet I was able to call my own shots.

A side note from the soap box: One should use electronic hearing protection/enhancers whether they use a brake or not. Save your hearing.
Posted By: Higginez Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/16/17
Heavier gun.

Smaller cartridge.

Less power on the optic.

Better position.
Posted By: Dogshooter Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/16/17
A good video camera on a nice tripod makes a great "spotter"....

Suppressors help immensely too...
Posted By: Higginez Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/16/17
Originally Posted by Dogshooter
A good video camera on a nice tripod makes a great "spotter"....

Suppressors help immensely too...


Suppressors are modern.
Posted By: Higginez Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/16/17
Generally.
Posted By: Higginez Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/16/17
Don't run with scissors btw.
Posted By: rost495 Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/16/17
Originally Posted by RIO7
Am having a hell of a time shooting long when I don't have a spotter, I am having a hard time spotting my misses and where I am missing, wind always blows so I am used to the wind some days it's not to hard to read as others, but when the bullet hits the dirt and the dust fly's up, by the time I recover from the recoil I can't tell for sure where I hit. sure makes making adjustments hard, anyone else ever have this problem ?? Rio 7

Take much longer shots, that way you've recovered and can watch the trace go in and the impact...
Posted By: sambo3006 Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/16/17
I have an adapter for my Kowa spotting scope eyepiece that allows me to mount my Samsung S7 phone on it. Shoot some video and review as many times as you want. Just make sure the spotting scope is no too close to the muzzle or the blast will jar it off target. Learned that one first hand.
Posted By: RIO7 Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/17/17
dog shooter, I took your advise and set up a good video camera will see how it works.
Posted By: boatanchor Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/18/17
there are times when hunting that a spotter is just as important as the rifle you are shooting even if it is braked, I have had times where my nephew was my spotter and guided me in for the shot (excellent spotter) that I might not have gotten otherwise.
A couple of years ago I missed the biggest mule deer I have seen in my life because neither me or my best friend (horrible spotter) could spot where the bullets were hitting in a 30mph Wyoming cross wind
Posted By: Talus_in_Arizona Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/19/17
I'm kinda surprised a break would allow you to see impact in an '06. But I dunno those things.
Posted By: gonzaga Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/19/17
I have a phone skope adapter for my Samsung phone to fit on my Swarovski spotter,
I can honestly say it does help for those times when I'm by myself. Loading the bipod will help you to stay on target after the shot too.
I also run suppressor like the gentleman above named dogshooter.....
Posted By: Higginez Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/19/17
Originally Posted by gonzaga
I have a phone skope adapter for my Samsung phone to fit on my Swarovski spotter,
I can honestly say it does help for those times when I'm by myself. Loading the bipod will help you to stay on target after the shot too.
I also run suppressor like the gentleman above named dogshooter.....


Name dropper.....
Posted By: gonzaga Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/19/17


You're just jealous because you reside in a communist state.....lol
Posted By: Dogshooter Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/19/17
Originally Posted by gonzaga
gentleman above named dogshooter.....


Gentleman? Laffin....
Posted By: MontanaMarine Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/19/17
Originally Posted by Talus_in_Arizona
I'm kinda surprised a break would allow you to see impact in an '06. But I dunno those things.


The 30-06 above weighs 16 lbs with the bipod attached. Then the brake effect, and the decent FOV of the 12X Super Sniper. Everything is working together. I'm not watching impacts on 100 yard paper. I mostly shoot distances between 300-1200 yards, and this setup works well. I'm pushing the 208 Amax and 215 Berger at about 2650-2700 fps.

I only use the shooting table up close (100 yd paper) but it is more 'bouncy' than being down on the ground.
Posted By: specneeds Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/23/17
Darn it now I really have to upgrade my spotter and get an iPhone adapter for the upgrade. I'm also a terrible spotter living in a communist totalitarian state. It really sucks because I voted for Jerry Brown in 1980 before I came to my senses.

Honestly I'm not hopeless but for someone to be typically the best rifle shot and worst spotter is a little embarrassing- with a good spotter I'm fair with the naked eye or even very good binoculars it's pretty bad. "Hey watch my shots carefully but I'll be no help on yours" isn't the most cosiderate thing to have as a message. But then again they are already hunting with someone who makes up his mind to shoot in milliseconds - don't point it out to me if you don't want me to shoot it - legal/safe bang.
Posted By: BrodynIdaho Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/24/17
I've been using the phone skope Bluetooth shutter remote lately and it is great when shooting alone. Get on target! Click the bottom and shoot. All while behind your rifle.
Also works well when glassing animals and taking pics. It's tough to take pics on full magnification by touching your phone screen. Seems to always shake but the shutter remote eliminates all that.
Posted By: remaction Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 05/31/17
If you have not been, try squaring yourself up behind the gun. Shoulders at 90 degrees to the target from your bench or from prone. That should help.
Posted By: Pharmseller Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 06/06/17
Switch to a 7mm-08. I hear you have time for a sandwich before the bullet reaches the target.





P
Posted By: Coyote_Hunter Re: Spotter-Help ?? - 06/06/17
Originally Posted by RIO7
Am having a hell of a time shooting long when I don't have a spotter, I am having a hard time spotting my misses and where I am missing, wind always blows so I am used to the wind some days it's not to hard to read as others, but when the bullet hits the dirt and the dust fly's up, by the time I recover from the recoil I can't tell for sure where I hit. sure makes making adjustments hard, anyone else ever have this problem ?? Rio 7



In short, yes - I have he same problem. Hell, I often have problems even when I have spotter. My wife and my long time hunting buddy are both as bad at spotting as they are reading maps. My hunting buddy gets upset when I insist on reading maps myself but when I let him do it and then ask where we are, the response is often "I don't know". This when we are driving down a highway and he can't follow the turns and creeks and other hints.

One reason I love my .243, ,257 Roberts, 6.5-06AI and braked .308 is I can see my own hits and misses.

Clay pigeons make great targets. At least you know when you hit them.
© 24hourcampfire