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Posted By: Ranting @57 Weath - 01/13/19
What can beat a 257 Weatherby at a 500 yard shot at a Pronghorn? and Why?
Posted By: smokepole Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
A .50 BMG.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
50/20 Anzio.
Posted By: smokepole Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
The Guns of Navarone.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Super duper top secret Naval Rail Gun.
Posted By: Higginez Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
6.5 Creedmoor
Posted By: joshf303 Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Originally Posted by Higbean
6.5 Creedmoor



Now you did it....

Cue BOBs.
Posted By: Ruger77Shooter Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Originally Posted by smokepole
A .50 BMG.


THIS^^^^^^^

Reason: you don't even have to actually hit the antelope. Just get it close to its nose and it'll suck the air right out of it with 0 meat ruined.
Posted By: bigsqueeze Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
No 6.5/300 Wby answer yet? Well ok then....
Posted By: viking Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
The classic 264 win mag, might not be far behind.
Posted By: Dustylongshot Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
I'm at a loss then, I have and shoot a 256 Newton 257 Roberts, 257 W., 264WM, 26 Nos., and a 6.5 X 300 W. I will admit though that my 257 W is what I use when antelope hunting.
Posted By: Rossimp Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Well it’s a good one. I would say the 6-06 with 26-inch barrel and 80-105gr bullets would be quite ideal for pronghorn out past 500 yds. Just as flat shooting with less recoil and muzzle blast.
Posted By: Coyote_Hunter Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
The German 'Paris gun'. It had a range of about 81 miles. Death from the stratosphere.
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
.458 Lott
Posted By: sidepass Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Originally Posted by Ranting
What can beat a 257 Weatherby at a 500 yard shot at a Pronghorn? and Why?



Why?
Posted By: Coyote_Hunter Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Originally Posted by Ranting
What can beat a 257 Weatherby at a 500 yard shot at a Pronghorn? and Why?


Beat it in terms of what - drop, drift, or retained energy and velocity?

Using Weatherby ammo data for 500 yards:
2514fps = 80g TTSX
1419fps = 115g Ballistic Tip
-17.4" = 80g TTSX

Weatherby sells their Mark V and Vanguard .257 rifles with 26" barrels. Their ballistic data corresponds well with my calculations for the 80g TTSX at 4000 feet in altitude.

If we assume the 80g TTSX (B.C. .316 per Weatherby) is adequate for antelope at 500 yards with 2514fps, 1123fpe and a drop of 17.4", let's do some calculations.

The first is that drift will be about 16.8" in a 10mph wind.

My 24" 6.5-06AI pushes 140g bullets to 3075fps with a 24" barrel. Assuming a 26" barrel and a 143g ELD-X (B.C. .625) at 3100fps, 4000 feet altitude, same 300 yard zero: This is a non-max, accuracy load.
22.3" = drop
10.3" = drift
2452fps = velocity
1909fpe = energy


I'd say that beats the .257 WBY pretty handily. I'd much rather deal with an additional 5" of drop than 3-1/2" drift.

If the 6.5-06AI had a 26" barrel with max loads the advantage would be even greater.
Posted By: peeshooter Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
The .%$#@57 is the real way to go.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
IME, very low S.D. bullets, like the 80 gr Barnes at hypervelocity, sometimes have bizarre terminal performance on WT type game.

It may not work out like you would think.

Beware.

DF
Posted By: hanco Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
26 Nosler
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Originally Posted by hanco
26 Nosler

I've had a .257 Wby and a 26 Nosler. Still have the Nosler.

DF
Posted By: hanco Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Still have both, son likes the 257 wby.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
My 257 was accurate, just had problems with consistency. That MkV action now wears a #3 Brux 7RM and sits in a McWoody Wby Express, formally the Sako Safari (Wby inlet). It is glassed and free floated with a Timney trigger. Tack driver. Sold the 257 barrel, dies and brass.

DF

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Posted By: Judman Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
1 gauge tri barrel!! Top it!!!
Posted By: gunner500 Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Originally Posted by Judman
1 gauge tri barrel!! Top it!!!


Easy, George Jetson four barreled pepperbox pocket derringer ray gun. ; ]
Posted By: gunner500 Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
On a serious note, the old 7mm STW and 7 RUM chunking 140gr NBT's at 3600 will spank that 257 wby's little ass as far as non-twist straight flat shooting cartridges go.
Posted By: AKwolverine Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Lightsaber
grin
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
.257 STW
Posted By: gunner500 Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
6.5-338 Lapua AI for the throat torching WIN. grin
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
.257/.378 Wby would be a real barrel burner also. wink
Posted By: gunner500 Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
My 257 was accurate, just had problems with consistency. That MkV action now wears a #3 Brux 7RM and sits in a McWoody Wby Express, formally the Sako Safari (Wby inlet). It is glassed and free floated with a Timney trigger. Tack driver. Sold the 257 barrel, dies and brass.

DF

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Nice looking stick DF.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
.257/.378 Wby would be a real barrel burner also. wink


Yup, bout a hunnert rounds would have you on the phone with Bartlein. shocked
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Bartlein makes barrels 5 days a week. smile

How about a .257/.300 Wby?
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Bartlein makes barrels 5 days a week. smile

How about a .257/.300 Wby?

I've heard it's not overbore if you can find slow enough powder.

Wonder what that round would perc best with?

DF
Posted By: gunner500 Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Bartlein makes barrels 5 days a week. smile

How about a .257/.300 Wby?

I've heard it's not overbore if you can find slow enough powder.

Wonder what that round would perc best with?

DF


Hydrazine! grin
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Bartlein makes barrels 5 days a week. smile

How about a .257/.300 Wby?

I've heard it's not overbore if you can find slow enough powder.

Wonder what that round would perc best with?

DF


Hydrazine! grin

I'd want a long trigger string... shocked

DF
Posted By: gunner500 Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
laugh laugh I'll watch from the house ;]
Posted By: jwp475 Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Bartlein makes barrels 5 days a week. smile

How about a .257/.300 Wby?

I've heard it's not overbore if you can find slow enough powder.

Wonder what that round would perc best with?

DF



WC-872
Posted By: gunner500 Re: @57 Weath - 01/13/19
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Bartlein makes barrels 5 days a week. smile

How about a .257/.300 Wby?

I've heard it's not overbore if you can find slow enough powder.

Wonder what that round would perc best with?

DF



WC-872


Cells jacked up and in another bag of dry rice, I heard it buzzing and saw it was you, got it wet again. crazy
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: @57 Weath - 01/14/19
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Bartlein makes barrels 5 days a week. smile

How about a .257/.300 Wby?

I've heard it's not overbore if you can find slow enough powder.

Wonder what that round would perc best with?

DF

Nitro soaked BS. smile
Posted By: Dustylongshot Re: @57 Weath - 01/14/19
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Bartlein makes barrels 5 days a week. smile

How about a .257/.300 Wby?

I've heard it's not overbore if you can find slow enough powder.

Wonder what that round would perc best with?

DF

Nitro soaked BS. smile

Charcoal is slow enough!
Posted By: Tom264 Re: @57 Weath - 01/14/19
2.7 mm kolibri
Posted By: Kimber7man Re: @57 Weath - 01/14/19
The 9.3 BS is mo betta
Posted By: salmonhead Re: @57 Weath - 01/14/19
I would think anything built on the rum case. All the nosler line and the long action rums with larger bullets. I'd think just less drift to deal with. Inside 210 swift scirocco at 3250 or so out of 338 rum. Hammers them. Longest is 532 a couple years ago. 515 this past season.
Posted By: Coyote_Hunter Re: @57 Weath - 01/14/19
The fact is that if drift is the nemesis to beat, there are a bunch of cartridge/bullet combinations that will beat the .257 WBY at 500 yards.

The .257 WBY can shoot flatter than most cartridges out to 500 but will lose in retained FPS, FPE and/or drift. Pick your nemesis.
Posted By: Dogshooter Re: @57 Weath - 01/14/19
6.5 Creed comes out.... and everyone forgets about the dominance of the B-29....
Posted By: shrapnel Re: @57 Weath - 01/14/19
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A .50 BMG.


A friend of mine bought this 50 caliber AMAC sniper rifle and thought it would be fun to go hunting with it. 50 BMG is not a good animal killer. We shot an antelope with a 550 grain soft point and the bullet didn't open up on the antelope. It did slow him down to where Russ finished it with a 45-70...

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Posted By: AlaskaCub Re: @57 Weath - 01/14/19
To me the 257 Bee was a rockstar before accurate range finders and scopes that dialed accurately really took off in popularity. The 257 allowed a guy to sight it in with a MPBR of 400 without too much difficulty. But if a guy wants to really shoot past 400 with any regularity a reliable scope, a reliable range finder and a bullet that bucks wind really shines and that ain’t the 25 cal bullets strong suit. Add the fact that you have to use 30-40% more powder in the 257 as well as barrel wear and it’s really just another option but not the best option IMO. I live in the eastern plains of CO and there are Antelope everywhere but it’s also windy on 9 out of 10 days most of the time, taking 500 yard shots with a 15+ mph wind is gonna make stuff challenging with low BC bullets!
Posted By: 25aught6 Re: @57 Weath - 01/14/19
Thats right, you owned a Rem700 in 257ROY. could not figure out how to reassemble it if I remember correctly. Must of bad mouthed the rifle and not the cartridge;)
Posted By: AlaskaCub Re: @57 Weath - 01/14/19
LOL. That you Jake? You in NC now?
Posted By: 25aught6 Re: @57 Weath - 01/16/19
Wouldn't you know it, Hope you guy's are all doing well
Posted By: magshooter1 Re: @57 Weath - 01/24/19
Originally Posted by smokepole
The Guns of Navarone.


TFF laugh
Posted By: hanco Re: @57 Weath - 01/25/19
The 257 is a great round, flat, hard hitting, damn little recoil. It’s hard to beat!
Posted By: Oldelkhunter Re: @57 Weath - 01/25/19
24/378
Posted By: HuntnShoot Re: @57 Weath - 01/26/19
Anything Lazzeroni. What? It's the 21st Century already? Dammit. Then a 22 CM shooting 75 ELD's and any decent RF.
Posted By: DoubleRadius Re: @57 Weath - 01/26/19
Originally Posted by Ranting
What can beat a 257 Weatherby at a 500 yard shot at a Pronghorn? and Why?

Now after 52 responses, aren’t you sorry you asked?


(Nope, troll posts be like.....)


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Posted By: Reloder28 Re: @57 Weath - 01/26/19
Originally Posted by Ranting
What can beat a 257 Weatherby at a 500 yard shot at a Pronghorn? and Why?


7mm Weatherby Magnum
120 gr @ 3650 fps
1/2 MOA
Posted By: JackVliet Re: @57 Weath - 01/28/19
7mm Rum
Posted By: swampthing Re: @57 Weath - 02/07/19
Nothing can beat it!!
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