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Posted By: bruinruin Simplest route to a 6x45? - 11/13/20
I can't get the idea of a 6x45 out of my head. I'm talking about a simple rifle; bolt action, drilled and tapped (of course) 20-21" slim-ish barrel contour, probably internal magazine (floor plate preferred), stainless or blued, wood or synthetic or even laminated handle.

What's the best (OK, cheapest. Still have young mouths at home) way to get here? Actions I have considered are Howa, Rem 700, Rem 7, even Ruger 77 (even though it's a bit heavy for my liking).

Thanks
Posted By: Kaleb Re: Simplest route to a 6x45? - 11/13/20
Buy a 700 223 send it to Douglas Hart Pac Nor and tell them what you want. A million ways to skin that cat but I can’t think of any easier.
Posted By: JCMCUBIC Re: Simplest route to a 6x45? - 11/13/20
Originally Posted by Kaleb
Buy a 700 223 send it to Douglas Hart Pac Nor and tell them what you want. A million ways to skin that cat but I can’t think of any easier.


This or do the same with the M7. 700 has more after market stuff but if the stuff/stock on it is what you want already you're done.

Of course whichever you use should be a .223 bf starting point. On both of those the mag box mod for longer OAL is easy.

Edited....I thought you already had the actions you listed. If starting from scratch and buying go 700 like Kaleb said.
Thanks, guys. I appreciate the responses.

Kaleb,...do you have any idea about the cost for a rebarrel and chambering from any of the outfits you mentioned?
I lucked into Steelhead's 6x45 Custom and love it. From what I can see and what I know, the easiest way is to go with a Remage barrel w/barrel nut.

I just went through the ordering on Preferred Barrel Blanks website for a 6x45, 8" twist, SS, #1 sporter, 20", w/barrel nut and with PBB removing your existing barrel from your action ($75). Total cost is $460.

Of course, you'd have to buy a Rem 700 .223 rifle with BDL metal or suffer ADL metal (it's a joke - I'm a ADL fan). Here is the website. Says 10-12 week turnaround.

https://preferredbarrelblanks.com/product/remage-pre-fit-barrel/

X-Caliber also does the Remage, but the cost is higher.
I'd also check with Douglas. Too bad IT&D isn't still doing chambering work.
Thread on same from May 2020

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/14888277/
Originally Posted by 257heaven
I lucked into Steelhead's 6x45 Custom and love it. From what I can see and what I know, the easiest way is to go with a Remage barrel w/barrel nut.

I just went through the ordering on Preferred Barrel Blanks website for a 6x45, 8" twist, SS, #1 sporter, 20", w/barrel nut and with PBB removing your existing barrel from your action ($75). Total cost is $460.

Of course, you'd have to buy a Rem 700 .223 rifle with BDL metal or suffer ADL metal (it's a joke - I'm a ADL fan). Here is the website. Says 10-12 week turnaround.

https://preferredbarrelblanks.com/product/remage-pre-fit-barrel/

X-Caliber also does the Remage, but the cost is higher.

Thank you. I just returned from that site and doing the same thing. 20" SS, 1/8 twist.😀

That would be a low stress way to do it, for sure.
Originally Posted by 257heaven

I just got done reading this thread. Lots of good info on it up until the grinch showed up.
Posted By: mart Re: Simplest route to a 6x45? - 11/13/20
I somehow ended up with two of them. I sent a Ruger Mini 14 to Accuracy Systems to be rebarreled to 6x45. After the fire at PacNor and I lost two barreled actions, I looked for a couple left handed mini Mausers to replace them. One of the ones I found is a 6x45. My plan is to send it out to PacNor to be rebarreled to one of the chamberings I lost in the fire. Having a hard time committing to that now. I shouldn’t have shot the donor.

Since acquiring the two I haven’t had a lot of time to get to the range. My wife’s health was an issue a year ago and then my job changed with the Covid plandemic. Was working a ton of hours and on call 24/7. I retired recently and am looking forward to getting both of them out to the range for further testing.

There’s several good and fairly inexpensive options, Ruger, Savage,Remington. ER Shaw is another barrel maker option.
Just my luck that I get serious about wanting to do this shortly after Remington closes up shop. Looks like the supply of remmy actions is a little bit more tight than previously.
Posted By: drover Re: Simplest route to a 6x45? - 11/13/20
Originally Posted by bruinruin
I can't get the idea of a 6x45 out of my head. I'm talking about a simple rifle; bolt action, drilled and tapped (of course) 20-21" slim-ish barrel contour, probably internal magazine (floor plate preferred), stainless or blued, wood or synthetic or even laminated handle.

What's the best (OK, cheapest. Still have young mouths at home) way to get here? Actions I have considered are Howa, Rem 700, Rem 7, even Ruger 77 (even though it's a bit heavy for my liking).

Thanks



There are lots of Rem 700 ADL's out there, I'll bet a WTB would bring out a couple.

It seems to me that the most economical way would be to get one of them and have a rebore done.

drover
Originally Posted by drover
Originally Posted by bruinruin
I can't get the idea of a 6x45 out of my head. I'm talking about a simple rifle; bolt action, drilled and tapped (of course) 20-21" slim-ish barrel contour, probably internal magazine (floor plate preferred), stainless or blued, wood or synthetic or even laminated handle.

What's the best (OK, cheapest. Still have young mouths at home) way to get here? Actions I have considered are Howa, Rem 700, Rem 7, even Ruger 77 (even though it's a bit heavy for my liking).

Thanks



There are lots of Rem 700 ADL's out there, I'll bet a WTB would bring out a couple.

It seems to me that the most economical way would be to get one of them and have a rebore done.

drover

A rebore crossed my mind, but I wasn't sure if a rebore from .224" to .243" was possible.
I've never heard of the chambering. Hint. LAUGHING!

If rebores were worth a fhuqk,Reborer's would be selling barrel blanks and they sure as fhuqk do not. Read that again. Now one more time. HINT.

PBB Goat Fhuqked my 1-8" 7-08 Howage throat geometry,despite having a supplied dummy round. Hint.

Sevens suck ass in all areas,as compared to a 700. Hint.

The Ruger Mini is a schit platform for said chambering,due COAL. When heeding same,the 223 is mechanically better,because it makes more BC to length ratio...yet still compromised as compared to AICS DBM latitude Hint.

I shoot the chambering in both CRF(Montucky) and PushFeed(700's). If you are asking these questions,go 700 and AICS DBM,because it is turnkey flawless feed/function,replete with nice COAL latitude(AM steel 5-rounders and MDT Poly 10's). Hint.

Lightweight is expensive,Heavy is less expensive. Hint.

An OEM Big Green Sporter Contour dupe at 20" is plenty and you'll want to be 1-8" as a minimum and 7" is a nice place to be. Hint.

Stuff that in an OEM wood/laminate handle and you'll be there,after the AICS DBM inlet. Hint.

If going heavier,a KRG Bravo is the most,for the least and I'd grab a James spout and be Logging in a coupla days. Hint.

Miss twist,throat and/or COAL...the 223 whoops it's ass. Hint.

You've been led to fhuqking water.

Thank me later.

Hint..................
Posted By: drover Re: Simplest route to a 6x45? - 11/13/20
bruinruin - You might want to give JES a call and talk with them.

http://35caliber.com/index.html

drover
Posted By: mart Re: Simplest route to a 6x45? - 11/13/20
I’m pretty sure JES doesn’t do rebores that small. I’m pretty sure this outfit could help you.

Rebore
Posted By: dale06 Re: Simplest route to a 6x45? - 11/16/20
Originally Posted by bruinruin
Thanks, guys. I appreciate the responses.

Kaleb,...do you have any idea about the cost for a rebarrel and chambering from any of the outfits you mentioned?


I’m not Kaleb, but....
With a good quality stainless barrel, $625 or so.
With a chrome moly barrel, a little less, but you have to blue is so not much difference in the end.
I’d go with a REM 700.
Posted By: Teeder Re: Simplest route to a 6x45? - 11/17/20
Originally Posted by bruinruin
I can't get the idea of a 6x45 out of my head. I'm talking about a simple rifle; bolt action, drilled and tapped (of course) 20-21" slim-ish barrel contour, probably internal magazine (floor plate preferred), stainless or blued, wood or synthetic or even laminated handle.

What's the best (OK, cheapest. Still have young mouths at home) way to get here? Actions I have considered are Howa, Rem 700, Rem 7, even Ruger 77 (even though it's a bit heavy for my liking).

Thanks


Easiest route would probably be to buy my brother's model seven S/S in 6x45!
In the 6x45, I wouldn’t discount the 1:10 twist. The 6x45 really shines up to about 90 grains, then IMO you start to run out of steam. I have a custom built on a Sako vixen and an AR, both 1:10s, and they are fabulous shooters. Even in my bolt gun oal is limited. I like 70 blitzkings, 80 bergers, and 87s in hornady or Berger’s.

Whichever way you go, the 6x45 is a winner in my book.
Posted By: BCinKS Re: Simplest route to a 6x45? - 01/03/21
I built one in 2003 and it has become one of my favorite rifles. I bought a 700 Remington from a buddy for $250. My neighbor at the time shot benchrest and this Hart barrel wouldn’t consistently shoot in the 2s anymore so he sold it to me for $35. I picked up a cheap factory plastic stock and my gunsmith buddy put it all together for a bottle of whiskey!
He did turn the barrel down quite a bit. It shoots 58&65 grn V-Max’s in the 1/2” range all day long! This little cartridge doesn’t look like much but man it knocks the hell out of coyotes!
Posted By: wtroger Re: Simplest route to a 6x45? - 01/04/21
I did mine on a interarms mini Mark X action. It shoots Hornady 58 and 65 grain bullets to 3/4 inch groups..
If you are still looking for an inexpensive way to a 6x45mm, I can suggest this. It is a Savage Axis with a Shilen Select Match SS prefit. I call it Frankenrifle Too (pictured below). The barrel is 22 inches, original factory contour, and has a 1 in 10 twist. You can build it yourself or have a gunsmith spin off the OEM barrel and put a new one on.

My first 6x45mm, Frankenrifle Won, is a HB beastie. It started life as a Stevens 200 (Savage Model 10 - pre Accutrigger) and was cobbled together with inexpensive bits and pieces I found on special. The barrel was the only expensive part at $300 USD.

The rifle below has a Boyd AT-One stock, aftermarket bolt handle and an RB trigger. You certainly don't need all of this. If you keep the original stock and use an Axis with an Accutrigger, you can pick up a prefit aftermarket barrel new for about $350 or less.

The target was the first five shots down the barrel after becoming a 6x45mm. The cartridges were made from military, once fired IVI brass, homemade 76 gr OTM bullets and 8208 powder.

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Posted By: Kaleb Re: Simplest route to a 6x45? - 01/04/21
Originally Posted by bruinruin
Thanks, guys. I appreciate the responses.

Kaleb,...do you have any idea about the cost for a rebarrel and chambering from any of the outfits you mentioned?


I apologize for not seeing this but all those places list the prices on the website or used to anyway. Normally a standard rebarrel is going to run $6-$650. You might can beat that by $100 if you look around but that’s going to be close.

You may have already finished the gun or decided against it by now. Take care.
I was wanting a light handy dual purpose rifle for both vermin and bigger animals. I built a 6mm TCU on a CZ 527 action fitted with a 1:9" 24" stainless barrel from a local Aussie maker. I am shooing 55gn NBT's at 3600fps and 70gn bullets at 3300fps, all from a 7lb rifle burning less than 30gns of powder. The rifle is noticably quieter than others, it is a genuine 300yd varmint gun with 55's and can match the original 250-3000 Savage ballistics with 80's, and 223 cases are everywhere. Its the best do it all little cartridge going.
Posted By: Kaleb Re: Simplest route to a 6x45? - 02/04/21
That sounds very cool.
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