Looking at maybe doing a 6x45 lefthanded rig. 7 twist, #2 or smaller contour, cut at 17" and suppressed. Looks like dies are around and not terribly expensive. Buy 100 lapua brass and should be good for a while on that. Just need throated for 95 berger vld I think.

Seems straightforward and low cost. Any hurdles I am overlooking?

Sounds great to me. Have to ask, why the 7 twist? I am thinking of the same build but 1/8 twist, that will shoot the 105 no problemo, 1/7 will stabilize up to 115 but I think that is too much of a good thing in the 6x45

Finding TAC or H'335?

No need for a 7" twist but with moderate impact speeds, it'll help you out for sure....

Berger VLDS are the best bullet for low velocity impacts I've ever seen. Love the cartridge...

Why not the 87 VLD in that small cartridge?

I have never shot the 87 or 95 vld. Have had great luck with the 6.5 versions so wanting to attempt them first in this one. Figure the 7 twist opens up all the heavies for me. I have a lot of big 22s for shooting 75-88 so figured I want 95 and up for this one. Slow is fine as max range for this rifle will be on 300 yard and under ground.

May grab brass, dies and bullets when I see them. Have primers and powder. Its a long term build though with waits coming on action, barrel and stock I am sure.

I chose that over the 6 ARC in an AR15 recently because of the simplicity of the 6x45. I went with a 1 in 8 twist, it will stabilize any 6mm bullet intended for the 6x45 velocities. Reloading die sets are easy to get. I bought mine on ebay for $70.00. I also just re-size 223 or 556 brass. Couldn't be simpler and you don't have to buy cartridge specific (6x45) brass. Range pickup that only cost your time is good to go with this cartridge. There is real beauty in that. I've been curious about the 6x45 for a long time and almost bought one 2 years ago. Another good thing that swayed me to building an AR for this particular cartridge was the 6mm bullet availability. Go to the LGS and what do you see? 6mm and .338 bullets on the shelves.. At least around here that is what I've been seeing. Kind of like .410 shotgun shells. I even bought 500 6mm bullets yesterday through powder valley, because that is all they had. The 6x45 also doesn't use the amount of powder that a lot of big game cartridges use, so it helps to conserve your much needed powder, but still get to practice shooting. That is also good too because barrel life is phenomenal with the 6x45. A lot of pros to going with this cartridge right now.






Definitely still under development, so groups will tighten up after finding a good load or 2..

I've had a 6x45 since 1996. I like the 55gn NBTs at 3250fps for small varmits, and the 85gn Speer BTSP for larger varmits.

This one at 120 with the little Speer.

Good feedback from all and appreciated. I'll start grabbing stuff as I see it.

I have one built on a Rem 600 action with a 21" PacNor barrel, I've had it a long time. 55gr NBT's and 58gr V-max for pelt hunting along the northern border. Since moving to the southern border the 6x45 is going in the barrel storage and I'm changing it and making it into a compact 20P. Having tried 6mm's on deer in the 1960's and having had terrible bullet performance I've pretty much abandoned it for deer hunting and have been using a 25-204(257 Kimber clone) as available bullets have a better track record for me in the 28003150 fps range.

I believe you could satisfactorily update your experience.

I was very interested in the 6x45 and on the verge of having Wayne York rebore my Ruger 77 ultralight from .223 until I recently learned of the 6mm-204RR. The Ruger mag box is too short so I'll have to figure that out, but the 6mm-204 seems like a better round on the same platform.

In a bolt action it probably is. A no go in an ar. Also,the mag box on a ruger 77 223 is extremely simple to modify.

This search was just for the past year. May be more older than 1 year.

Building a 6x45 on the cheap - Link

Simplest route to a 6x45 - Link

Considering a 6x45 - Link

Built a 6x45 on a tikka t3 action, shilen 8 twist barrel finished at 21" threaded for a can. It is quickly becoming one of my favorite rifles. I have shot the 70 blitzking at around 3150 and havent really tried much heavier bullets yet. Great rifle tons of fun I highly recommend it.

Good threads, thank you. Preferred barrel blanks look interesting.

I haven't looked into it much yet, but I'm hoping it's an easy modification. It would be nice to just use a .243 mag box and follower.

Ordered up a McMillan Edge Classic inlet for Hawkins bottom metal. Going MDT magazines. Deciding on action still.

Bullets arriving today lol.

30338,

I built one on a Sako L461 action because I love the action regardless of its magazine length limitations. I twisted mine at 1 in 9 and don't think I've ever shot a bullet lighter than 95gr (NBT) in it. One day I'll have to try some of the lightweights. Not much varmint shooting where I'm at. H4895 seems to be the best powder overall at this point with heavier bullets but have others to try. I've been shooting the 100gr Norma Oryx and have taken a couple whitetail bucks with it, couldn't be more pleased. Probably my favorite deer rifle for the Adirondacks right now over a full on Rem model 7 custom build in 7-08. I just love to carry the little 6x45 and have enough confidence in the setup that I carry it when guiding deer hunters.

I shoot the Oryx and Hornady 100gr RN in it due to shorter bullet length desirable in my rifle. It also shoots the 95 NBT well though I've not done much load work with it. Requires deep seating but works in my short action. In an action with a longer magazine it could be one of the absolute best deer bullets if you're an expansion and penetration guy. I hunt the forests of the Adirondacks which can be dense so waiting for the broadside shot isn't always possible, obviously only taking good shots is a responsibility. I'd probably be happy with the 100gr Oryx forever except for the increasing price. Midway just sent an availability notice at $100 for a box of 100 bullets. Glad I have a few. I also have a bunch of Hornady 100gr RN so they may be next batter up. I'm not sure that I can get enough velocity to insure full expansion with Barnes bullets on soft tissue hits and I don't like wasting shoulder meat.



Given the pictures that you posted for me in the Lightweight 223 thread I'm sure that you're going to build a beauty. I'd love to see pictures when you're done.

Best to you.

Frank

Good info Frank and appreciated. Slowly gathering parts and components here.

There's been a lot of good threads on this subject here over the years. I believe Frank has been shooting one of these for at least 9 years now. Correct me if I'm wrong. In those 9 years of use, he should be bringing a lot to the table in these discussions. I will add in some of my past experience over the last month, dinking around with the little 6x45:


After shooting a couple days ago^^




This target is load development, but still around 1.2 moa:





The 6x45 is an absolute pleasure to shoot. I don't see much difference between it and the 223 rem in recoil. I'm still working on developing loads and am going to go and pick up 8 pounds of TAC here in a bit. I've heard that powder works very well in this cartridge. Other great powders are shown in the targets above. They include H4895, RL7, AA2015. Some that I do not like have been LT32 (I'm still working on that one), H380. I'm going to try to shy away from H4895 and only use powders that I can drop from the powder measure. I do this with H4895 and still get good accuracy, but powders like AA2015 and RL7 are much better in that regard. I know this info is from shooting an AR, but there isn't going to be much difference in a bolt gun. Some bullets to stay away from are 90gr gamechangers: They are too pointy and you'd have to seat them way out there to work. And other heavy pointy bullets like the 105 A-max, 107 match king, and 105 Berger . Also, for Frank, you may want to try some 100gr Hornady BTSP interlocks. They have been readily available at midsouth shooters supply. I recently bought 500 there..

Hornady 6mm 100gr BTSP interlock

Also, another one to look at would be the 90gr ELDX:
90gr. ELDX

These are also in stock^^^^

Good info. Have RL7, H335, Varget and RL15 in good supply. Ordered my MDT magazines today, dies should arrive soon. Will play around with my 95 Bergers to see where they are in the 2.55 oal MDT mags. May go up or down in bullet size from there. Those Hornadys look good too. I just have had great luck with Bergers and will start there.

I've been running a 6/223 (6x45) since 1996.

On it's second barrel now, I went with a Lilja 1:12 three groove, cut to 21inches long.
55gn NBTs for varmiting. At just on 3350fps they work very well, and as as flat as any 223 50gn to 55gn bullet.
80gn Speer Deep Curls, or 85gn Speer BTSP at just on 2950fps kill very effectively.

For powder I'm using 8208 for both, it meters well, and delivers good velocity for this little cartridge. I've tried faster powders, and slower, but find 8208 is a sweet spot.

Adam, any preference on brass? Also, what contour on the Lilja? Thank you

It is a Lilja Number 2 on a Mini Mark X Mauser (now Zastava 85) with a Kahles 2-7x36 on top. 6lb 12oz as pictured. Second picture of rifles is the 6/223 beside some of my other dedicated hunting rifles for a size comparison.


I'm using Lapua for the 55gn, and Winchester for the 85gn. Federal for the 75gn X Bullets (I have a couple of hundred left).

Thanks for the info. Great set of rifles there.

How many of you guys running TAC in your 6x45. Good accuracy? Clean burning? What weight of bullets work with that powder? The load data I have shows TAC as a good powder in the 6x45. What has been your experience?

I'm interested in hearing about how TAC works, too. It's pretty close in burn rate to AA2230 and I have some of the cannister grade version of it labeled 2230C. I also have some AA2200 and I'm hoping that one or both show good results in the 6x45 I bought back in January.

Bruinruin, you might already have this info, but it has some good loads for the 6x45:
Western powder load data

This one is also like the old standby that guys loading for the 6x45 rely on:
Buck ammo load data. Save to your computer and print it off..

I see in the western powder load data that exterminator powder also works. Anyone use that powder in their 6x45? I have that powder available to me as well. I may buy 4 or 5 pounds of it to try out.

Also, for those of you interested in running some 90gr Nosler ballistic tips in your 6x45, here goes:
6mm 90gr Nosler ballistic tips. 50/bag @$19.95/bag

I still think I'd go 7 twist. That cartridge is no speed demon. Twist can't hurt.

Can't see modifying a 223 case to use 6mm bullets, only to run the same weight bullets as the 223 but with a lower b.c.

Berger twist calculator seems to indicate a 7.5 will twist 95-105 well at my elevation. Ordered a Hawk Hill 7.5. As a 6mm its legal for big game in Colorado if I decide to use it for that. Just a scratch I wanted to itch. Betting it performs quite well though with 95 grain bullets. Down the road and suppressed, it'll be good for grandkids to use.

You can’t beat it. Brass is endless. Set up in a bolt gun it should be about like the ARC I’d think.

I had a 6x45 for a while, 17" suppressed. It was a lot of fun

This thread kinda makes me wish I had it back

Dude, Do you remember any velocities and bullets you were getting out of the 17"? I'll end up between 17-19 I think.

An 8 twist works just fine for the speeds you are going to get out of the 6x45. No need for a 7 twist..

70s @ just under 3000

85s @ 2750

105s @2550

I think the 95 vld might be the perfect recipe, right mix of decent trajectory, BC and expansion characteristics. Kinda wish I'd have thought to try it.

In mine the 105 Amax behaved like a big game bullet near and far but the drop was enough you didn't want to misjudge your range by 25 yards

You have it backwards...two things stabilize a bullet, speed and twist.

Great info on those speeds. Line up pretty well with what I have seen but most were using longer barrels. Appreciate it.

7.5 twist should allow me to use 105 down pretty easy and hoping the 95 flies well.

Mine was a 1 in 8 and it shot the 105s very well. If starting over I'd do a 1 in 7 or 1 in 7.5.

I dont know if there is any science behind it but I think the added twist helps initiate expansion. I shot a lot of 85 sierras out of mine at deer and they performed out of proportion to their size and case capacity.

I think there is something special about fast twist, modest velocity and relatively soft bullets. It just worked

Now I've about talked myself into another one

Man, I’ve almost talked myself into one

I always forget about Hawk Hill barrels. You’ve used a few of them haven’t you? How do they compare with others you’ve used to date Kurt?

Me too....

Maybe we could get a group buy on 6mm blanks...lol

Scotty, Oh my sample size of Hawk Hill is only 3 so far. Each has been a hammer though with a variety of bullets in each. Lot of good barrels out there, but I do like their #2 contour a lot and imagine it will be great on here. Got to get action bought in next couple of days. Headed Nucleus for that. Not sure it'll all be done for fall as not sure how far out McMillan is these days. If it is thinking the wife may be using this one some too.

Hawk is only out about 12 weeks. And Lilja actually has some 8 twist in stock.

Thanks Kurt. I probably should give them a shout one of these days. I’ve heard nothing but great things from them. I’ve been a Krieger and a little bit of a Bartlein guy mostly but the Hawk Hill seems pretty nice as well.

McMillan has been under a month on my last couple so maybe you’ll get lucky with it. I like the sounds of it though. I’m about to air out the little ARC in an AR but the 6x45 is really an easy button with all of the brass available.

We'll see shortly. Neat thing is, I can swap bolt heads and ream barrel to 6 creedmoor for pretty damn cheap if I decide to. Not thinking I will. American Rifle Company has lefty short actions in stock. Kind of a no brainer coming with lug, rail, and coating for $999.

Can't wait to see this one. Should be pretty cool.

Looking forward to seeing how this turns out! Also, thanks to those providing experiences with different bullets. I'm in the process of building a LH AR in 6X45 for the boys to use (20" 8 twist). Unless I get hamstrung by parts availability, I should have it up and running for them to use this fall. Right now I'm strongly leaning towards the 85gr Sierra and/or the 70gr Hammer for poking holes in deer.

Got to see the Nucleus yesterday at the FFL dealer. I think it will do nicely. 5 day wait on approvals at present. Trigger, barrel and stock should be in next.

I used a 85 grain HPBT extensively in 243 win and it always worked well. Imagine it will do fine for you. Hoping the 95 Classic is the start and finish of my load work.

Waiting on dies to arrive. In the meantime, this is a factory 223 load sitting in the MDT magazaine. Stick turned me on to those and they allow for a 2.55 oal. Neat magazine for a 6x45. Planning on seating the 95 at about 2.49-2.50. Components slowly trickling in.

Thanks for the affirmation. I almost went with a 25-45 Sharps, but got a good deal on a 6X45 barrel. I do like the idea of more lighter weight options in 6mm vs 25. Now if someone would make a 55-60gr bonded or mono big game bullet...

Here is the 95 berger classic seated to base of neck. Thinking I'll for sure end up in 90 ELD, 95 Berger, 103 ELD territory with impact speeds over 1750 fps to a long distance at my altitude.

Below is a picture of a 105 gr Amax in my MDT mag. I can tell you that if your going with a lighter weight build the 5 round Accurate Mags will accommodate this type of OAL as well as I run them too in my 6x45.

I dont think you can go wrong with the 85gr GK and your 8 twist will be just fine, even for bullets up to and over 100gr. My 8 twist stabilizes 100gr pills very well. Also its hard to get the 85gr sierra to shoot poorly. Same can be said for the 75gr sierra h.p and 60 grainers. The 68gr bergers shoot very well too.

If only for starters,the .243" Sugar 85GK,is a Heaping Pile Of Fhuqking Schit,in all regards. Not that Pavement Pounding Fhuqktards don't swoon their wadcutter BC(sub .315 G1). Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!

'Course they cost more and go slower,than say a .224" Hornie 75 BTHP(.395 G1 BC) and nearly dig as deep. The extry drop,drift,recoil and reduced impact velocity,along with compromised terminal effects,are "good" things to CLUELESSS Droolers. Hint. LAUGHING!

The 270 is a Goat Fhuqk in a '15 platform,due the simplicity of COAL availability and BC. Pardon my simply shooting it all. Hint.

It's likely on the far right. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!



1000 more words,for the astute. Hint. Laughing!



Though in "fairness",this is all "NEW" to me. Hint. LAUGHING!



Now if/when offering the COAL requisite to shine,the 270 is certainly an AMAZING performer. Falling wellllllll shy of 223 performance in a Krunchenticker is funnier than fhuqk,though hardly rates a build. Hint. LAUGHING!



I enjoy you CLUELESS Fhuqks doing your ABSOLUTE "Best". Hint.

Fhuqking Laughing!...................

Thank you for the pics and advice. Seriously. I'd very well be in the 223 camp if it was legal for deer hunting here, it's not. .243" min for deer on private lands. I probably should have went with a bolt action, but the kids and I wanted to try our hand at an AR so here we are. The setups on our place don't allow for more than 250yd shots, with most occurring shy of that by 1/2. While not optimal, I'm thinking this will serve our needs. But, if it doesn't I'll gladly come back here and admit as such.

If you're looking for a lefty bolt gun, that Nucleus seems a good way to go. By the time a guy adds up bolt handles, coating, rail, lug, bushed pin, etc, the price for a Nucleus looks really good. Number of other custom actions in same category, just settled on that one as they were in stock and competitively priced.

I'd simply stamp 6x45 on the barrel and roll a 223,simply because it is superior in a Krunchenticker. Hint.

Once you delve into increased COAL latitude far greater than Krunchenticker confines,the .243" BC's get a chance to earn their keep. Flipside being the .224" advents,which eclipse same,whether it the 88 ELD or 90 Beer Can and I of course shoot both. You reap better BC's and due the reduction in mass,greater velocity and the melding arranges greater impact velocity and thusly improved terminal effects,with less recoil. Win/win/win. Hint.

In a Krunchenticker,you'll simply be second fiddle to 223 performance/terminal effects,while paying more to do so. The .224" Hornie 75 HPBT is a reliably reliable administer of Terminal Effects,all outta proportion to it's relative "size". It makes the trip up feed ramps reliably,sets back none and deforms nil. Lot to Lot consistency is rather amazing and they are simply a Dirty Nasty Bitch on Critters,which is THE highest of accolades. Hint.

Bullets matter wayyyyyyyyyyy more than headstamps and a Krunchenticker Mag Fed 6x45 is a steaming pile of fhuqking schit in comparison,to a Vanilla 223 in same. Hint.

None of 'em are gonna bounce of critters,but with all in hand,the differences are stark and the advantages REAL. Hint.

Just sayin'.......................

Love my 22 Grendel. If my constraints were 6mm and AR platform, I'd be tempted to go 6 Grendel. Logistics vs performance tradeoff. I shoot mostly Hornady, and the 22 calibers still win out in BC's, but it's closer at least.

The barrel stamp idea has more than crossed my mind... Again, thank you for the information.

I've 224Grendel/LBC's/Fhuqking PPC Improveds on both Krunchentickers and Boltguns. Have quite a few 243Grendel/LBC's/Fhuqking PPC Improveds on Krunchentickers. Best bullet is always gonna win,simply because it can go no other way...thus the Delta 88 affinity in particular. Hint.




Not that I don't have some .243" love. Hint.



Or drag a beloved itty-bitty 270 squirtin' 105's in tow daily. But coming full circle,it's not a heavily COAL compromised Krunchenticker. Hint.



Beings your brass certainly ain't headstamped 270,I'd not begin to fret a barrel stamping that wasn't either. Hint......................(grin)

Pictures of good firearms being ruined by an idiot for $500, Alex.

Shooter71 sent this pic today. Guess I might have time to work up a load real quick for it. He and I were both impressed with initial trigger pulls on the new Timney HIT trigger. Will put up a few closeups when I get it.

That sure came out slick!

Looks like a sweet rig Kurt! Hawk Hill and Shaen combo, I’m sure it’s a hammer!


Roy

Very nice!! 'Twould love to replicate that for my youngest. Maybe someday...

Nice looking rifle. My 6x45 is likely my favorite deer rifle. Yours will be a lot of fun to shoot and carry. What will final weight come in at?

I just need to send him one of our 223 Montanas and a 6mm barrel. That gun is helping with the nudge.

My scale sucks but the rifle and rail is currently right at 6 pounds 14 ounces. I can't imagine doing more than a #2 on a carry rig these days. So final weight is 11 ounces of suppressor and then a scope of course. Not sure on scope yet but may just hit the SWFA 6x easy button.

Looks like another fun project and light on the shoulder!

Mowhawk 6x45...

Jim, What barrel specs and total weight was yours? Looks great. Shooting any heavies in it?

Barrel is 1-8 X-Caliber stainless,I also have a 1-14 Douglas .223 barrel for it, both 24" and app .600" at the muzzle.McMillan stock, Timney trigger and 700 bolt handle.Without digging it out,I think it is around 7# without scope. When I first got the rifle back from the gunsmith I tried everything from 55 to 105 grains-all shot basically the same, 1" at 100 and 2-3" at 250 yards. Contemplated selling,but didn't want to sell an inaccurate gun for the amount I would need out of it. Somewhere along the line I switched scopes and suddenly my groups shrunk! Haven't tried the heavier bullets yet, but have shot 62,66 and 68 and haven't shot a group over .4" at 100 yet.

I think that happens more often than you think on scopes. Lot of sold and rebarreled rifles lol. Nice shooting. Loaded up 95 vld for test loads and hope to shoot it this weekend.

How did it shoot?

Didn’t have a lot of time to mess with loads. Had 5 shot groups on paper of .5-.65 with both 95 vld and 95 classic. Super nice to shoot suppressed of course. For deer to my max range that kind of accuracy is all I need. Rounds kiss lands, fit mags, and feed like butter.

Any reason you didn't go 6mm creed or 6xc?

Yes. Since ordered all the parts and chose what he chose I’m sure he had a reason. 15 grains less powder per shot might be some of it.

Pretty easy to find quality 223 brass. I'm burning 25 grains of Varget to get 2600 fps out of an 18" barrel with 95 vld. Its actually quite useful to longish ranges at my hunting altitudes. Basically just had an itch so I scratched it.

Right on. Just curious.

Great looking rifle Kurt. Looks excellent buddy. I dig that.

That rifle looks great. I'm surprised it isn't lighter though. 6 pounds 14 oz's. My pre 64 model 70 338wm weighs that much. Unless I read that wrong. One thing about it, the little 6x45 is a nice cartridge. Not a speed demon, but very fun to shoot. No recoil and very accurate. Exceptional in an AR15 platform.

BSA, My scale isn't great but it comes in right there without Seekins rings, SWFA 3x9 and the steel AI mag. The Hawk Hill #2 is closer to others #3 and the ARC Nucleus is not a lightweight action. In the hands it feels quite nice. Its an example of why I always encourage people to drop a barrel contour or two on these projects though. The 7.5 twist is showing it wants to shoot the 95s great and I may even bump up to a 103-105 for a test later. Confident the 95 will kill what I shoot it at though.

If a guy wanted light in a lefthand, I'd go Defiance Anti action and a Pacnor Mtn contour barrel I think. Could drop more than a pound that route. If righthanded, lot of factory options of course so why build.

I'm glad you are digging the chambering an blueprint. Something so sweet,tends to make ALOTTA other chamberings/blueprints jealous,as they gather the sidelines like BSA. Hint.(grin)

Poor poor(literally) BSA's Imagination and Pretend,grant her ALL sorts of Delusional Dumbfhuqktitude,which she reprocesses as "experience",with a straight face. She reads just enough,to paint herself in a fhuqking corner. I rather enjoy how "REAL" her Imagination and Pretend are(to her). Hint. Laughing!



I'm powerless to refrain 105'ing in 270's,due BC and their Pile Driving Ass. Don't suck that they cost less too,while feeding lotsa fires in a goodly smattering of chamberings(Turnbolts and Krunchentickers both). Hopefully you'll have your Favorite Wingman along on it's Christening,as such things tend to inspire even more build.I never could like the 3-9x,but Sister does and I feed the fire.(grin)

'Tis yet another High BC day today and I HATE getting a rifle damp! But sounds like it'll lay down in a couple days.(grin)

Laughing!........................

Perfection. Can't wait to see what you put on the ground with it.

I built a 6mm TCU on a CZ 527. I had a 24" Swan 1:8" stainless barrel same contour as the factory screwed on and fitted a 4.5-14x Loopy. Its easy to load for, has as much omph as the 6mm PPC and almost the same as the 6mm -204, while still running cheap brass. My rifle is a tick over 7lbs, but with a lighter scope and a fibreglass stock it would come in at around 6lbs.

I am loading 55gn NBT's flat out and getting 3600fps, and 3350fps with 70's with good case life, and only 27.5gn of powder per shot. A 55gn Nosler BT at 3600fps is a 300 yard varmint load, and it "POP's" foxes and 'roo heads hard, and a 80gn bullet at 3200fps will hammer smaller deer.

You guys should try a 6/204 with some amazing accuracy and speeds, add 200 fps over the 6x45. CFE is king when it comes to speed with accuracy.

NO flies on a 6 TCU or a 6-223 AI!

Bullet seating dies from Forster and Redding Competition are easily modified with standard drill bits, use Redding S neck and full length sizers.

Shot my 6x45 today. Tried to call a coyote first - unsuccessful, but wasn't trying too hard. Then shot steel at 200 yards.

I only load 105 Amaxes for mine and it's a joy to shoot.

Yeah doesn’t make sense to me

6mm is the minimum legal caliber for big game where the OP lives and has already stated he and his family wants to hunt deer with said rifle.

This is very interesting to me. I'd like to know more about the 6x204.

BC seems to be the grail these days but I built mine to shoot those lower BC bullets because they have exceptional terminal performance on deer sized game. The 100gr Norma Oryx and 95gr NBT are two examples. The 77gr TMK hadn’t been invented then. I’d do it again in a heartbeat. Great round.

How do you like the mini SWFA? Great looking rifle.

I like it for a soft recoil rifle. I bought 2 with duplex reticle when they first were on sale. High end of magnification is hard to focus. Clicks are spot on and repeatable. I haven't bought any more and won't.

Got a chance to take it out to 300 and 500 today. The 95 VLD at just over 2600 fps did well at 300. 3 shots here at around 1.5" or so.



Shot 4 at 500 with 3 tight and 1 that got a little high on me. 500 is past the point of what I think reliable expansion will be so it was more just for fun. At 300 to 400 though I think it will hammer stuff pretty well. So much fun shooting it with the suppressor, practically no noise or recoil.

Great shooting rifle and marksman. Nicely done.

Very nicely done!! Good luck with it this year.

Nice shooting! Hope to see it lying beside a nice KS whitetail in a month or so.

I’ve seen it kill some pretty big deer. It’s a cool little cartridge.

I have a Remington model 7 predator in 223. I wish it was either a 6x45 or 25x45. Not sure if anyone would rebore my barrel. Would be kinda cool though.

For those of you shooting the 6x45, what barrel length do you recommend?

Not at a stage to recommend anything re barrel length. Will say my 18" with 95 VLD does 2600 fairly easy. Add 25 fps for each inch longer and you'll be pretty close. Pick what velocity you want and chop accordingly. If the 95 vld kill well for me at this velocity, probably done looking at options.

Thanks