I've got a couple of Rem 700 take off barrels coming, one .223, one 25-06. The .308 Ruger is the only short action I have at the moment, so I'm considering making it a switch barrel gun. It shoots alright as is, but I could use something milder on the shoulder for the wife and kids.

My current thought is poke the .223 to 22-250 imp, and then what to do with the 25 tube. If I lop off the threaded tenon and re-thread the chamber area, I can clean it up to any of the three chamberings. I'm leaning towards the 25-284, as I could see another one or two in the future and thus justify investing in a reamer. If I did a bob, it would likely be a one off.

I have the bob and bob improved but the 25-284 is a great option if you handload. the 284 case never got the attention that it deserved with the "rebated" rim.

+1

The 25-284 would be potent medicine.
I have a straight 284 and like that case a lot.
I've been thinking about having that chambering in my next custom rifle.

Good luck,

Don

Went through the same thing a fewe weeks back. I came back from the gun show with 257 bob, better bob, and 25-284 dies, because I could not make up my mind which to do to a 25 cal barrel that I came by (thanks Painless). I decided on the 25-284 and it should be at Mickey Colemans about now to get chambered.

I wouldn't do a 25-284, bxroads and hondojohn couldn't get them to feed well and they obviously had grouping problems with the light contour barrels.

That speaks volumes to me.............grin

Recoil is obviously SEVERE.......................

I guess it should thus be built on a boss equiped a-bolt <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

And a Lonewoof stock.................

Tasco 6-24X50 and see through rings?

Have been guilty of both,in the past....though it stings to say it.

Life is a series of lessons and I've taken quite a few courses.................

The toughest thing about being a parent is wishing your kids could take shortcuts in life, ie not have to learn by f'n up. But I'm realizing more and more you need to let em f up on occasion to learn.

It hit home last night when my daughter said she didn't like poetry. I said when I was a kid I didn't like it either. Now I appreciate it as apparently simple on the surface, but trying to get the most done with the fewest words is very different in practice.

I opined that kids don't like poetry because they haven't lived life enough to fill in the blanks.

Since you've never had one you should listen to what Big Stick said, as you do with "groups". Funny how most Big Stick fans live through him versus their own experiences.....

PS

The feeding issues are well documented, except in Alaska of course, as is always the trend.....

And I thought everything was bigger in Texas...<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

John

The "Better Bob" offers no advantage over the 25-284.

Other than you could feed it off the shelf fodder. Wouldn't interest me,though it may others.

As to the 284Win "debacle" Fantasies,I can only say I've had 4(the three current 25-284's in the stable and a 284Win,that I rebarreled to the former,for the kids). Pards have 6-284's,25-284's and a 284 on various s/a Remmie platforms(mine are a 600 and 700's,The Pimp has a Seven and the others are 700).

All donors started out as .473" versions,none had boltface work,extractor work,follower work,feedrail work or feedramp work and live/breathe through issued Remmie mag boxes. I've ADL and BDL configurations both.

I concede the trend......................

Well, I got hot knickers for a 25-284.
My next custom rifle, on a Remingham.

Don

Never said that it wouldn't feed, just NOTHING compared to a 308 or 30-06 based round. My standards are just higher. I'll not settle for mediocrity, would heep rather have a 1/2" longer rifle chambered in the 25-06. I've never understood the facination of short actions.

My 25-284 would feed two from the belly, reliably but not smoothly. If I put three in the belly (a tight fit), and closed the bolt over the top of them, upon cycling, the bolt would slide over the rim of the top round every time. In contrast, my .250 Ackleys would feed very reliably, but not as smoothly as the .243 based rounds with a factory shoulder angle.

John

Believe it or not,I've a 308 in a 700 or two,to compare the 25-284's too.

And 223's,223AI,Swifts,22-250's,22-250AI,243,243AI,6AI,7-08,SAUM,WSM,yada,yada,yada.

There isn't a more simplistic machine than a boltgun and if someone cain't get a round peg,into a round hole,it is very telling.

None of 'em mediocre,that's done been proved. As to duping short action capabilities in a long action?

That ain't my gig.............

Funny, I've managed to shoot an occasional group myself


I'd say from my experiences, I can figure out which orifice the gases emit from various posters.

I'm no fan of anyone and don't need to live through anyone elses experiences. I'm not too thickheaded to learn, nor too proud to admit there are folks that have more experience and skill than I. If you don't let petty jelousy get in the way, you might be able to learn to, then again <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Is your 25-284 on a long action?

Don

You don't have a clue what or whom I have had. Should I book the flight to Paradise for you?

I'll pay for the hotel...

[bleep]....

You Alaskans can dish it out but sure as heck can't take it. Relax! I'm not trying to make enemies here. If you all promise not to cry any more I'll promise not to challenge any of your "Alaskan" claims <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.

Where be Stick when I need him??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I need to find out if'n it be long o' short, before I forget what I asked him... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Old age plays hell mit da memory... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Don

It'd be a short action 700.

I'd lay odds on that...

NO doubt!

I think he has one on a 600 too........Blake

All 3 of mine are short action,all my pards' are too.

75's at 3750fps,87/90 at 3575fps and 100's at 3400fps and a 23" tube. My others are 22" and 24".

Great cartridge and was toting the 23 incher today.....................

I can take it just fine. And i can make my own memories too... Never was one to live vicariously through some one else. Though maybe you do??

Thanks,
SA it will be!!!

Don

Domed a flat-out running forkie this afternoon,with the 23 incher,in the back of the head.

Woulda took a picture,but someone mighta put another Curse on Big Momma and the kids and they's still trying to get mileage outta the first.

Laffin'........................

Oh......and light barrels don't shoot................

They actually shoot quiet well.....

So I've heard,in certain Northern circles.

'Humper had his skeletonized/faceted/fluted bolt s/a 700 based 25-284 in tow.

Stretched it to 500yds and 75XFB's were going where the reticle was placed.

Typical.............

It's not that difficult. You always refer to clays so let me break it down for you. A clay at 500 yards is only .82 MOA! To get down to .5 moa you'd have to bust it at 850 yards, and VERY consistently to call it a 1/2 MOA rifle......

Damn...

I'm thinkin' the two of you need to meet on neutral turf, with clays at various ranges, game of plentiful varieties, and play for pink slips...

I can take some gore...grin

but only with pink rifles.....grin

That'd work...

Though I hear purple, yellow, and who-knows-what next (flourescent green?) would work, too.

Am thinking Montana would be pretty near neutral...

Maybe Wyoming...

I know, I know, they'll do that too, and probably could substitute the huge clays for eggs or even pebbles.<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

But then he'd loose the "Alaskan" advantage <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

And there wouldn't be any Alabama advantage either...

Neutral turf.

Besides, it sounds like a GREAT excuse for a trip, don't it?

Montana aint bad but I'd rather Alaska. Never been there but sure as heck can't wait to!

Well, if you're willin' to play on their homefield, I hear there's a bear season in the spring... tags is CHEAP too...

I understand MOA extrapolation formulas to infinity,as equally as I understand that MOA functions at 100,is not lineal in form.

The atmosphere is a bitch,as is Physics,Corriolis and the like.

Also have a grip on micrometer muzzle dimensioning and their lineal extrapolations to same.

That'd be the point(again/still)...................

Have you found that past 600 things get REAL harry in a hurry. May just be me.........

Things escalate past barrel length.

There is no lineal function to downrange distance..................

I agree and know theres no explanation, just seems that way to me.