Great snag for $175.00 !!!
If you donβt like it, Iβll take it off your hands, and give you your money back for it. π¬
It's possible.........the threading for choke tubes. We've got 5 of them here. 4 done and one waiting to be done.
I send mine to William Lambert at SumToy Customs. He does great work and his tubes are second to none.
Hard to believe a break open single costs that much today. I remember my younger brother bought a brand new H&R 20 gauge for his first shotgun when he was in junior high for 39.95.
And bread used to be a nickle a loaf...
But yes, just like everything else...
Congrats - that's a great price for the 20. Post pics when you pattern it. Bet it would shoot well with TSS straight 8.5 or 9s.
I have the same gun but in 12 gauge. The 12 was factory threaded for Win chokes. Had SumToy drill/tap it for fiber optic sights couple years back and patterns Hevi-13 straight #7s nicely through a .660.
Hard to believe a break open single costs that much today. I remember my younger brother bought a brand new H&R 20 gauge for his first shotgun when he was in junior high for 39.95.
They were the NWTF gun of the year in the early 90s, and that factory dipped original Mossy Oak Bottomland makes them particularly desirable. They can fetch twice that or more on the big online auction sites. Came in 20, 12 and 10 with the 20 being harder to find.
And bread used to be a nickle a loaf...
But yes, just like everything else...
I bought a couple used singles back in that same time frame for 25 bucks apiece. I remember you could buy a new Stevens single shot .22 from the hardware store in town for 34.95 or a bolt action repeater for 44.95. Guess I'm just getting old.
With that information, chilinstructor, you'll need to up the anty! Lol! Thank you paboxcall and welcome to the fire!
You're heading backwards....
the camo dip job would cost dang near $175
good score
With that information, chilinstructor, you'll need to up the anty! Lol! Thank you paboxcall and welcome to the fire!
LOL. Yep. I was just messing with ya.
Like I said, great snag at that price.
I saw one at a gun store several years ago. They were asking $375 for it. π¬
Hard to believe a break open single costs that much today. I remember my younger brother bought a brand new H&R 20 gauge for his first shotgun when he was in junior high for 39.95.
Yep. I remember buying a 20 gauge standard finish version way back then in a pawn shop used, but like new for $25 bucks. I cut the barrel down to 20β with a pipe cutter, and cut the rear of the butt stock off with a saw to make it a pistol grip. Kept it in our old JD 4020 Tractor for a snake gun when Iβd have to spend all summer plowing our wheat fields.
You're heading backwards....
No, just something to occupy some time and have fun with...
You're gonna LOVE that gun once you get it set up to kill turkeys.
I went that way about 5 springs ago. Now my SX2 and SX3 (and all the others) just sit. Your new toy is.......metal to metal.......the exact gun I started with in putting mine together.
At any reasonable turkey shooting distance, you'll never tell the difference between it and a 3 1/2" 12 gauge with lead shot.
DANG, but that's about spotless !!! Beautiful CCH on it !!!
CONGRATS !!!!
If you decide to go all-out turkey hamma with it.......get with me. We've only had about 5 of them done. ππ
The CCH does jump out. It looks really good. It's got some rust freckling from finger prints. Hopefully those will come off. That spot in the trigger was old grease and it wiped off.
I was thinking about tubing it. But I'll likely leave it as is for a squirrel gun.
That's exactly like the one my brother bought from Jamesway for 39.95 as his first shotgun back in the '70's. I still have a picture of him and me with him holding that gun and 7 dead cottontails spread out in front of us that we killed after school one day. Scribbled on the back of the pic it says "seven rabbits in 45 minutes after school".
I was thinking about tubing it. But I'll likely leave it as is for a squirrel gun.
If you thread it for tubes..........it's a 30 second transition between squirrel gun and all-out turkey hamma.
Just sayin'
I was thinking about tubing it. But I'll likely leave it as is for a squirrel gun.
If you thread it for tubes..........it's a 30 second transition between squirrel gun and all-out turkey hamma.
Just sayin'
We killed a bunch of turks with the one my brother had with it's mod. choked barrel and 3" Winchester XX magnums. Some of them at distances nobody would believe could be done without a 3" 12 and extra full. We did a lot of night time predator calling back then too {fox pelts brought darn good money} and he killed a bunch of those with that 20 gauge and 3" number 4's too.
The inside diameter at the muzzle is .585 on the nose. It might throw a pretty good pattern of TSS #9 with a .585 choke.
The inside diameter at the muzzle is .585 on the nose. It might throw a pretty good pattern of TSS #9 with a .585 choke.
Never know til you try.
Turkey tube I'm shooting 7's through is a .562-5"
Glocks, that is a great looking little 20 for sure, congrats on the find.
I would give it a try with the TSS before you did anything, you might get lucky. At worst, you are out a shell or two but it could save you some money if it is a shooter.
You going to put sling swivels on it or run the sling that chokes the stock and barrel?
Grown men with children's guns......
Glocks, that is a great looking little 20 for sure, congrats on the find.
I would give it a try with the TSS before you did anything, you might get lucky. At worst, you are out a shell or two but it could save you some money if it is a shooter.
You going to put sling swivels on it or run the sling that chokes the stock and barrel?
Hadn't thought about it. Would prefer not to make any modifications for now.
I always did like CCH guns
I always did like CCH guns
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I've got a nice, un-modified receiver with a (so far) 2-barrel set here (20 gauge & .30-30) with nice CCH on it.
Got a buddy that has a 45/70 in one as well. It shoots really well, but with a good hand load will get your attention
I always did like CCH guns
Same but it has to be the "right" one. As well as Turnbull does CCH, looks wrong on a 1911 frame/slide. Looks right on a SAA or shotgun tho.
I always did like CCH guns
Same but it has to be the "right" one. As well as Turnbull does CCH, looks wrong on a 1911 frame/slide. Looks right on a SAA or shotgun tho.
Agreed !!!!
This one is about the size of a youth gun, 13" L.O.P., 22" barrel, also choked .585". I do have some 3" TSS #7's that I'll try prior to any choke work. Probably replace the recoil pad with an actual recoil pad and use it for the youth hunts I sponsor on my property. But before that, I have to fully field test it! Just to make sure it's up to standards...
Dean, are you thinking of putting a red dot on it?
Yes. I'd like to have a spot milled for the footprint of one of the smaller dot sights.
You could drill and tap and bed the sight and not mess up the camo dip as much, just a thought.
Be sure and post up a picture or two when you get it done.
Grew up deer hunting in a shotgun/bow only county. At 9, dad had me shooting a youth 20ga single with of course 3in 00 magnums. Plastic buttplate. That thing was brutal.
Pattern must have sucked, I was 9, had a doe and yearling start feeding under a crabapple tree at about 25/30 yards. Killed them both one shot. Deer career has been downhill ever since.
That must have been one heck of a pattern...lol
Grew up deer hunting in a shotgun/bow only county. At 9, dad had me shooting a youth 20ga single with of course 3in 00 magnums. Plastic buttplate. That thing was brutal.
Pattern must have sucked, I was 9, had a doe and yearling start feeding under a crabapple tree at about 25/30 yards. Killed them both one shot. Deer career has been downhill ever since.
Good story! 00 buck is not a handicap under the right conditions. It's deadly on deer. I grew up hunting shotgun-only counties and we just accepted 00 was what it was and your deer had to be 40 yards or closer. In our jungles, that's not that hard. Most were that close and closer. I mainly use slugs now, but I still use 00 for deer. I call it my weekend load. Because I know on Fridays and Saturdays, the hunt clubs will be out running their hounds and many of the deer on those days are moving fast not paying terrible attention to what they are running towards, only what they are running from. I've had deer run by so close I could almost reach out and touch them. In thick cover, under those circumstances, 00 is the best deer round there is.
Hard to believe a break open single costs that much today. I remember my younger brother bought a brand new H&R 20 gauge for his first shotgun when he was in junior high for 39.95.
This... I find it hard to believe anyone would buy these...
Some say something is worth what someone will pay for it. I say something's worth is based on how much pleasure it brings to the owner. I bought my little gem for three times what it sold for new when they were still being made. I've no problem with that. Some people pay thousands for handmade calls, rare postage stamps, old bottles of wine. If it brings the buyer some joy, more power to them.
Hard to believe a break open single costs that much today. I remember my younger brother bought a brand new H&R 20 gauge for his first shotgun when he was in junior high for 39.95.
This... I find it hard to believe anyone would buy these...
Their perfect comination of simplicity and effectiveness is just too much for some to bear. π
Hard to believe a break open single costs that much today. I remember my younger brother bought a brand new H&R 20 gauge for his first shotgun when he was in junior high for 39.95.
This... I find it hard to believe anyone would buy these...
The lure of their perfect comination of simplicity and effectiveness is just too much for some to bear. π
Grew up deer hunting in a shotgun/bow only county. At 9, dad had me shooting a youth 20ga single with of course 3in 00 magnums. Plastic buttplate. That thing was brutal.
Pattern must have sucked, I was 9, had a doe and yearling start feeding under a crabapple tree at about 25/30 yards. Killed them both one shot. Deer career has been downhill ever since.
Good story! 00 buck is not a handicap under the right conditions. It's deadly on deer. I grew up hunting shotgun-only counties and we just accepted 00 was what it was and your deer had to be 40 yards or closer. In our jungles, that's not that hard. Most were that close and closer. I mainly use slugs now, but I still use 00 for deer. I call it my weekend load. Because I know on Fridays and Saturdays, the hunt clubs will be out running their hounds and many of the deer on those days are moving fast not paying terrible attention to what they are running towards, only what they are running from. I've had deer run by so close I could almost reach out and touch them. In thick cover, under those circumstances, 00 is the best deer round there is.
I've never heard of OO buckshot being loaded in a 20 gauge shell. I've only ever seen #3 buck loaded in the 2 3/4 inch shell and # 2 buck in the 3" shell.
Hard to believe a break open single costs that much today. I remember my younger brother bought a brand new H&R 20 gauge for his first shotgun when he was in junior high for 39.95.
This... I find it hard to believe anyone would buy these...
The lure of their perfect comination of simplicity and effectiveness is just too much for some to bear. π
Except for the simple minded....
I donβt see the allure that would lure me into buying a single shot either but Iβm not going to cast stones if others do. I just prefer to have a backup shot. Different stokes for different folksβ¦
Grew up deer hunting in a shotgun/bow only county. At 9, dad had me shooting a youth 20ga single with of course 3in 00 magnums. Plastic buttplate. That thing was brutal.
Pattern must have sucked, I was 9, had a doe and yearling start feeding under a crabapple tree at about 25/30 yards. Killed them both one shot. Deer career has been downhill ever since.
Good story! 00 buck is not a handicap under the right conditions. It's deadly on deer. I grew up hunting shotgun-only counties and we just accepted 00 was what it was and your deer had to be 40 yards or closer. In our jungles, that's not that hard. Most were that close and closer. I mainly use slugs now, but I still use 00 for deer. I call it my weekend load. Because I know on Fridays and Saturdays, the hunt clubs will be out running their hounds and many of the deer on those days are moving fast not paying terrible attention to what they are running towards, only what they are running from. I've had deer run by so close I could almost reach out and touch them. In thick cover, under those circumstances, 00 is the best deer round there is.
I've never heard of OO buckshot being loaded in a 20 gauge shell. I've only ever seen #3 buck loaded in the 2 3/4 inch shell and # 2 buck in the 3" shell.
That could be. I've only used 12 gauges for deer. Just saying 00 is a superb deer killer under the right conditions.
Grew up deer hunting in a shotgun/bow only county. At 9, dad had me shooting a youth 20ga single with of course 3in 00 magnums. Plastic buttplate. That thing was brutal.
Pattern must have sucked, I was 9, had a doe and yearling start feeding under a crabapple tree at about 25/30 yards. Killed them both one shot. Deer career has been downhill ever since.
Good story! 00 buck is not a handicap under the right conditions. It's deadly on deer. I grew up hunting shotgun-only counties and we just accepted 00 was what it was and your deer had to be 40 yards or closer. In our jungles, that's not that hard. Most were that close and closer. I mainly use slugs now, but I still use 00 for deer. I call it my weekend load. Because I know on Fridays and Saturdays, the hunt clubs will be out running their hounds and many of the deer on those days are moving fast not paying terrible attention to what they are running towards, only what they are running from. I've had deer run by so close I could almost reach out and touch them. In thick cover, under those circumstances, 00 is the best deer round there is.
Slugs werent allowed in our county. When the 3 1/2in craze hit, dad went and bought two mossberg 835s, we stacked deer up with those things. I remember he belly crawled up to a foodplot on a big 10 eating one morning, squeeze one off at 67 steps. He didn't go far. Biggest thing though with that 00, if they didn't drop, you needed to watch them fall. That buckshot would plug a hole and rarely got any blood trail.
The guy that developed hevishot lives right down the road from me, he'd bring us cases of free stuff in the early days. I actually have a box of some of his prototype hevi buckshot from 20 years ago or so he gave me to test out.
IL doesn't allow "00" Buck for deer, so I've never used it for that.
One of the reasons there's so many different things out there, is so that you can get/use just about whatever you'd like. Make it whatever you'd like, can afford, whatever. People that constantly say "I would never get that" or "I can't believe anyone would use/buy that" or "I don't use it so it must not be necessary" or even "you're stupid for using/buying that" are merely expressing their opinion in a place where NOGAF about their opinion! Seams being an A-Hole is in vogue now from the safety of their home sitting in front of a keyboard, as I am right now! Lol! I'm sure there's stuff that these people buy/use that I would think the same thing about and never give a second look. Difference is, I don't post my opinion about it in their thread/post.
I purchased this thing because it intrigued me, was, in my opinion, cheap enough (with what stuff costs nowadays) and it will be a nice addition to turkey hunting for a youth who otherwise wouldn't have something to use in the turkey woods.
.....it will be a nice addition to turkey hunting for a youth who otherwise wouldn't have something to use in the turkey woods.
It will be a nice addition for a youth or for ANYONE.
I have a safe CHUCKED with dedicated turkey guns......from .410 bore to 10 gauge. Singles.......pumps......autos.......
So, I can use whatever tool I feel like every time I go out.
I have used my 20 gauge single for every bird since I set it up over 5 years ago (except for one fall bird using a "nostalgia" gun).
TN was slug only (no buckshot) and it is impressive to watch a deer get hit and body slammed with one of those. First deer I ever killed was a gun was with a 12ga slug
I've never had a "dedicated turkey gun". Never felt the slightest need. Spring or fall, gobbler or hen, mine have all died just fine after being blasted with a standard 26" - 30" barreled blued steel and walnut field gun with nothing more than beads for sights. Many with just a standard modified or full choke and field loads.
Again, it's all whatever you want to make of it.
I won one at an NWTF banquet years ago and gave it to a little boy at the banquet boy he was excited
You're gonna LOVE that gun once you get it set up to kill turkeys.
I went that way about 5 springs ago. Now my SX2 and SX3 (and all the others) just sit. Your new toy is.......metal to metal.......the exact gun I started with in putting mine together.
At any reasonable turkey shooting distance, you'll never tell the difference between it and a 3 1/2" 12 gauge with lead shot.
Beautiful Turkey and SG there Yoder409.
I have never had the opportunity to hunt Turkeys, how do they taste?
Cheers ~
I won one at an NWTF banquet years ago and gave it to a little boy at the banquet boy he was excited
Perfect!
You're gonna LOVE that gun once you get it set up to kill turkeys.
I went that way about 5 springs ago. Now my SX2 and SX3 (and all the others) just sit. Your new toy is.......metal to metal.......the exact gun I started with in putting mine together.
At any reasonable turkey shooting distance, you'll never tell the difference between it and a 3 1/2" 12 gauge with lead shot.
Beautiful Turkey and SG there Yoder409.
I have never had the opportunity to hunt Turkeys, how do they taste?
Cheers ~
They taste just like chicken. π
Actually.......... They don't taste the same as a Butterball. But they were born to run and fly and eat bugs, berries and acorns. Butterballs were born to stand in a barn and eat turkey pellets. Wild turkey has its own taste. And that tastes like turkey. But, it IS a drier meat (less fat) and unless you address that when cooking it, you'll end up with something as moist as a mouthful of sawdust and tougher
than the sole of a workshoe.
You're gonna LOVE that gun once you get it set up to kill turkeys.
I went that way about 5 springs ago. Now my SX2 and SX3 (and all the others) just sit. Your new toy is.......metal to metal.......the exact gun I started with in putting mine together.
At any reasonable turkey shooting distance, you'll never tell the difference between it and a 3 1/2" 12 gauge with lead shot.
Beautiful Turkey and SG there Yoder409.
I have never had the opportunity to hunt Turkeys, how do they taste?
Cheers ~
They taste just like chicken. π
Actually.......... They don't taste the same as a Butterball. But they were born to run and fly and eat bugs, berries and acorns. Butterballs were born to stand in a barn and eat turkey pellets. Wild turkey has its own taste. And that tastes like turkey. But, it IS a drier meat (less fat) and unless you address that when cooking it, you'll end up with something as moist as a mouthful of sawdust and tougher
than the sole of a workshoe.
Have you ever tried to Fondue the breast meat?
I do my Ruffed Grouse that way with a variety of dipping sauces, best way to cook and eat Ruffies!
I have not.
Usually grill mine the day after they're killed. My brother does deep-fried strips.....
How do they taste? Pretty good actually. π
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How do they taste? Pretty good actually. π
DANG, but that looks GOOOOD !!!!! π³
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Give it a try, it may become your favorite way to eat them. Eliminates the dryness issue and does not mask the flavor, which is why I do my Ruffies that way.
Ruffies have a very delicate and delicious flavor, it's actually my favorite game diner. We use Peanut Oil, cut breast meat into 1" cubes, when the oil reaches 375, put your cube in and as soon as it stops bubbling, it's good to go :o)
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That looks plenty tolerable.
Yep !!
Another beautiful aspect of the fondue, you can make a variety of dipping sauces so at one sitting you can have an Asian Sauce, a Mexican sauce, an Italian Sauce etc.
You can take your turkey all around the world on one diner table :o)
You're gonna LOVE that gun once you get it set up to kill turkeys.
I went that way about 5 springs ago. Now my SX2 and SX3 (and all the others) just sit. Your new toy is.......metal to metal.......the exact gun I started with in putting mine together.
At any reasonable turkey shooting distance, you'll never tell the difference between it and a 3 1/2" 12 gauge with lead shot.
Beautiful Turkey and SG there Yoder409.
I have never had the opportunity to hunt Turkeys, how do they taste?
Cheers ~
My wife makes a killer home made turkey soup from the legs and thighs. I can't stomach the breast meat but then I won't eat the breast meat from a Butterball or chicken either. My dogs seem to like wild turkey breast so I feed it to them.
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How do they taste? Pretty good actually. π
DANG, but that looks GOOOOD !!!!! π³
Details ??
Pound turkey breast flat, 3/8β
SautΓ© fresh spinach, mushrooms, onion and garlic
Roll good deli ham, Provolone and Muenster cheese along with the sautΓ© mixture in the turkey breast from the thin end
Wrap with bacon and use toothpicks to hold it together.
Bake it in a 375 degree oven till itβs done slice and eat.
Might of forgot something but as always improvise. π
Turkey tenders work well too. Baked for heart health. π
Nice looking meat fellers....I guess we'll never see Martha Stewart's prO staff Ynder409s smoked turkey he bragged about.
I've killed several turkeys with my H&R .12ga with modified choke. Just let them get a few steps closer.
Nice gun, but give it a test fire first to see if it shoots close.
I bought a used little compact H&R 20 SS with a choate pistol grip stock that I wanted to use on the ATV for a survival gun.. thing shot 18 inches to the side at 20 yards.
Off it went to the next road hunters dream.
Well, THAT just looks pretty tolerable.......
Yep.
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Good looking eats for sure
Different strokes for different folks....
yea you stroke things diff. than all of us
yea you stroke things diff. than all of us
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Last weekend's bird the way it looks tonight.
Flavored with a little TSS. Told my wife to chew lightly just in case. Glad I did.
I'd like to find one of the 20 gauge H&R single shots in camo