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Posted By: gregintenn 99B in 25-35 - 09/22/20
There is a local auction coming up Saturday that has what appears to be a B in 25-35. I know condition is everything, and all I've seen are a couple of pretty lousy photos. It doesn't appear new, but doesn't look that bad in the pics. I can't see any extra holes.

The barrel doesn't look very long (maybe 20-22 inches?). It is octagon. It also has a crescent buttplate. Looks like a blade type front sight, and a regular rear sight on the barrel (no tang sight).

Is this a desirable configuration? Old, original 99s don't come up for sale around here very often.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/22/20
The short octagon barrel wasn't catalogued as a standard option, so you'll first need to determine if you think it's a special order short barreled rifle, or if somebody cut it down later. Both are possible, but truthfully it's more common that the barrel has been cut down.

If factory correct.. definitely desirable. Even if cut down, lots of folks would want to buy it.
Posted By: gregintenn Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/22/20
I went back and looked again. I think it may be longer than I originally thought.

http://www.carmanrealestate.com/p/22909/auctions-2020

What the heck. Here's a link. It's the first auction. I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Am I right in thinking the 25-35 is basically a necked down 30-30?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/22/20
I don't know that I'd leave the link up if you want that gun for yourself. grin

Yeah, that looks like a full 26" barrel to me.
Posted By: gregintenn Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/22/20
Ok. Thanks. I doubt anybody here would travel to Hillbilly, TN for one rifle, but who knows.Can you see any problems I'm missing from the pics? I know they aren't great.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/22/20
They are low res pictures expanded on the web page, so tough to tell. Can't tell if it's original blue that's turned to patina, or if it's a reblue and blued lever. Top of buttplate to stock fit looks odd. Early gun, no perchbelly on it. So 1905 or earlier probably.

Worth a look in person, those pics suck.
Posted By: gregintenn Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/22/20
Thanks. I expect a refinish, but it isn’t that far of a drive to find out.
Posted By: saddlering Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/22/20
Better take a look at the bore,If you can. seems like almost every 25-35 iv looked at , the bore wasnt that good!
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/22/20
Originally Posted by saddlering
Better take a look at the bore,If you can. seems like almost every 25-35 iv looked at , the bore wasnt that good!


Ditto. It's what put me off buying any of the couple .25-35's I ever stumbled onto. One of them had condition out the wazoo otherwise.
Posted By: damnesia Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/22/20
Wish it was an online auction smile
Posted By: gregintenn Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/22/20
Originally Posted by damnesia
Wish it was an online auction smile

You’d want better pics if it were.
Posted By: gregintenn Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/22/20
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Originally Posted by saddlering
Better take a look at the bore,If you can. seems like almost every 25-35 iv looked at , the bore wasnt that good!


Ditto. It's what put me off buying any of the couple .25-35's I ever stumbled onto. One of them had condition out the wazoo otherwise.

Hmmm. I thought this cartridge was originally loaded with smokeless powder. I guess they were still using corrosive primers?
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/22/20
Absolutely. Depending just how early, mercuric primers were around too- a double death wish for an unattended rifle barrel. Regular old corrosive primers that succeeded mercuric primers stayed in universal use way into the 1920's. When you think about it, it's kind of a miracle that we enjoy so many old rifles with nice bores. I guess the protocol of cleaning the gun immediately after use was drilled into most shooters. Except kids- why a huge number of early "boy's rifles" have crummy bores. I guess gun cleaning lessons didn't take hold until adulthood a 100 years ago! grin

We've had this discussion before. It seems a few of us here have noticed a higher rate of sewer pipe .25-35's than one would expect. Dunno. Could be coincidence because frankly I haven't looked up the arse of very many of them, but odd to me that every one I did was trashed.
Posted By: ring3 Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/22/20
Good looking auction! We only get one like that every couple years. Like the double sink among other items. Good luck!
Posted By: gregintenn Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/23/20
Originally Posted by ring3
Good looking auction! We only get one like that every couple years. Like the double sink among other items. Good luck!

Come on down and ride with me.
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/23/20
I would be interested in the aeroplane pedal car. I bet I could make it go like a bat-out-of-hell!
Posted By: gregintenn Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/23/20
LOL!^^^


Anybody want to throw a dollar figure out there assuming no problems?
Posted By: RAS Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/23/20
If I was near, I would go look at that gun. The rest of the estate looks really nice. With my experience attending auctions, there is a direct correlation between the firearms and the estate being auctioned off. This guy had a nice place with lots of toys.
Posted By: gregintenn Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/24/20
Surely somebody wants to throw out a number.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/25/20
I'm not good at pricing but I'll through out a number of ...add $500 for it being a .25-35.

Maybe that will stir up other comments.
Posted By: dsr1935 Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/25/20
If you go to the auction, I hope you will report back. How was the condition and how much did it sell for. I have the matching rifle. Model 1899 B, 25-35,1910 with barrel length of 20" and factory letter. Unfortunately the letter does not specify bbl length. My does not have much bluing left. It is for sale.
Posted By: RAS Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/25/20
Originally Posted by dsr1935
If you go to the auction, I hope you will report back. How was the condition and how much did it sell for. I have the matching rifle. Model 1899 B, 25-35,1910 with barrel length of 20" and factory letter. Unfortunately the letter does not specify bbl length. My does not have much bluing left. It is for sale.


How much are you asking for it? smile
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/26/20
I must be stupid, I see real estate for sale. Don't matter, every Savage 25-35 I've ever seen looks like a road culvert inside and out.
Posted By: damnesia Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/26/20
I'd been looking for a .25-35 for a while. All the bores I saw looked like [bleep]. I finally found one that had strong rifling but was dark. It cleaned up a little but if it would have been any other caliber I wouldn't have touched it. It was also below 500$ which made my bite.
Posted By: gregintenn Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/26/20
Originally Posted by Rick99
I'm not good at pricing but I'll through out a number of ...add $500 for it being a .25-35.

Maybe that will stir up other comments.

Thank you sir. That is exactly what I was looking for.
Posted By: gregintenn Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/26/20
Originally Posted by dsr1935
If you go to the auction, I hope you will report back. How was the condition and how much did it sell for. I have the matching rifle. Model 1899 B, 25-35,1910 with barrel length of 20" and factory letter. Unfortunately the letter does not specify bbl length. My does not have much bluing left. It is for sale.

There was a small chunk of wood missing at the tang. It had a blued lever and an amateur refinish. Bore wasn't good, but not real bad. Wrong sights. It brought $875 + $25 transfer/background check fees. So $900. I did not buy it. I didn't bring a tape measure, but expect the barrel was 26". It looked shorter to me in the ad. Serial number was 74.xxx I think. Could have been 47.xxx.
Posted By: gregintenn Re: 99B in 25-35 - 09/26/20
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
I would be interested in the aeroplane pedal car. I bet I could make it go like a bat-out-of-hell!

It brought $375. If I had a good place to display it, I would have bid. It was cool.

Thanks for your help, guys!
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