will you keep if a Biden/Harris administration taxes you per firearm, makes you keep trigger locks on them, makes you buy an insurance policy to own any, makes you register all of them with a threat of felony if caught with unregistered firearms, or makes you store them in government facilities?

I hope everyone here voted.

Me, if it goes the way they promise it will, I'll own two.

*Not much of a collector. Jus facing reality, we are on the verge of losing America to demographics, beyond recovery.

If Biden wins, I don't see any of that happening. A president doesn't have the power to pass legislation like that alone, and the republicans have the senate, and supreme court.

All of what I want.
I'm not planning on complying with any stupid laws that I disagree with and I'm not willing to give up my 2nd amendment rights.

As previously stated:

The republicans with the senate and the supreme court, don't really need the presidency.

Ive lived long enough. Im at the point where i dont want to live in a world where the neo communists win and take over. Ive no use to be alive in an dystopian future such as that and the tree of liberty is welcome to use me to sustain it.

Amen brother!

Exactly. I do my absolute BEST NOT to associate with ANY liberals. At work, it is difficult, but they ALL know me and do their BEST to give me a wide birth. I have lived WAY too long to give in to ANYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gotta give them all the bullets first...

As for me, I am done. I am cancelling my c&r license, throwing out my inventory book, headed to Redding Auctions in Gettysburg, canceling my voter registration. I refuse to participate in a society such as what we are turning into. Fortunately I am having my other cataract surgery in two week before jackass joe decides I am too old for that. Can't even hold a fair honest election. I feel the same as Longbeard. If you know what is good for you, stay the hell away from me. I will not give in. Who is going to be the first to be surrounded by a mob that demands you kneel and had over your wallet..........while the police officer stands by, because he has been told not to get involved. I have a couple of 1895's that I will keep.. Maybe a hunting rifle or two. Military collection, bye bye. I do have a couple evil drive by semi auto M1 garands. I suppose they will have to go. Some street thug could cut the barrel down to 5 inches and have a 30 06 uzi. Three tube fed 22 rifles. High capacity mags I guess.

President doesn't need to legislate , implement executive order .

You may want to study up on executive orders.

Republicans don't have the House. I'd say it's doubtful they'll take it. Officially we don't even have the Senate, though it's very likely we'll keep that.

Biden needs Congress to revoke the law protecting gun mfr's from frivolous lawsuits, which is his biggest wish. Revoking that law would pretty much lead to large Democrat cities using tax money to sue every gun mfr out of business.
As well, Dems need Congress for universal background checks for private sales. Everybody would just ignore this, since it's unenforceable without a nat'l gun registry and not sure SCOTUS would uphold fed regulation of in-state private firearm sales.

Outside of that, he can block most firearm imports thru executive action, Congress turned over that power long ago.
He can pull a Trump and try to ban some things by executive order, the bump stock ban was a horrible precedent there. Most at risk would probably be all semiauto rifles under the claim they can easily be converted to full auto with the use of home made bump fire devices.
ATF under Trump is already moving on making pistols with arm braces NFA firearms, so no matter what that will probably happen.
I don't think there's much else he can do via Executive Orders, if there'd been more then Obama would have done it.

Most executive orders stem from a president’s desire to bypass Congress. The legislative body is not required to approve any executive order, nor can it overturn an order. The best it can do if it doesn’t like an executive order is to pass a law to cut funding for the order’s implementation. But even then, the president can veto such a defunding law.

Didn't realize I added the House to my post. I noticed it earlier this morning and removed it.

Executive Orders are essentially just orders from the executive to an executive branch to implement something under existing law. If there's no law supporting the order or the agency's power to implement it, the courts will strike it down.

I pray none of that happens. Guns will get cheap if it does!

We've lived through this before we'll make it again.

You have NEVER lived through this before. What Biden/Harris has in store it the likes we have NEVER seen. Portland, Minneapolis, Seattle, Philadelphia, all burned and looted while the police stood down. What's to stop BLM or antifa from going on a rampage?

US

I think US is all talk and no action, although I will give the red states in the mid west for being the part of the country with back bone..

I don't worry about antifa, I worry about a communist government. I've seen what they're capable of, even recently murdering many people in Nicaragua, and it's not even reported in the news. You would never know because the media doesn't want anyone to know what happens with communism.

I worry about what kind of world I’m leaving for my children.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Blame for this situation is to be laid nowhere but on the hands of the average American that is CLUELESS as to why he/she voted for the candidate that they voted for. Oh, I LIKE that guy. I'll vote for him. After what Trump has accomplished during these 4 years, you would have to be a TOTAL idiot not to stood with him. Nuff said. More likely than not, this will be the last election of my life. It is too late for America to wake up.

Trump derangement syndrome is alive and well.
Many anti Trumpers would have voted for Charles Manson or Adolph Hitler before they voted for Trump.
Instead they voted for a commie named Chlamydia Harris.......

I've told alot of people to their face (friends, relatives, co-workers) during political discussions that either support liberal Dems and policies or seemed to think some of them are ok that they are politically ignorant and uneducated. That bill fits many seemingly normal and intelligent people who vote for liberal socialistic reprobates that want to rule America. Alot who I talk with get their information from the likes of CNN, CBS, and the rest of the fake news liberal networks, they think they're hearing the truth. Sad!!!! Very few discussions ever get heated.

Either Karl Marx or Vladimir Lenin coined the phrase "useful idiots" to describe the people they suck in with their BS. The U.S. is full of "useful idiots"! The Communists or whatever totalitarian government then has to get rid of the "useful idiots" after they get in power and the "useful idiots" start complaining that they are not getting what they were promised. Hitler got rid of his most influential "useful idiots" the night of the long knives. Incidentally Hitler claimed he was a socialist also.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/us/pennsylvania-convention-center-arrests/index.html

Nothing to see here. The tables have completely turned. Now it is the working stiff who has the foot of the federal government on their neck, not the other way around. I fear something bad is going to happen.

Doomsayers

The country goes on through good times and bad. We've been through way tougher times that Joe Biden.

The country has always survived changes in Presidency.

The framers who drafted the constitution though of just about everything.

Checks and balances.

Executive branch, legislative branch and judiciary branch. Nobody gets too much power.

Read the constitution.

I'm sure Trump has never read it. Either that or he thought it simply didn't apply to him.

I have been a registered Republican my whole life. Donald Trump is not the leader of my Republican party and many other registered Republican voters.

That was his undoing in this election.

Nuff said on that.

You do realize checks and balances isn't how this is happening right? This isn't just "our guy lost".

The Senate and the Supreme Court are going to protect your guns and your personal freedoms. You have to consider what is at stake in terms of our democracy. Hitler consolidated his power claiming he was defending his people against the socialists and communists. Trump had/has and expressed autocratic ideas and rhetoric, He is a very dangerous man. He was getting ready to lead his lambs to slaughter. Thankfully, their were enough people that originally thought he was our savior (myself included) that realized he was a false profit. We are better off without him. In 4 years we will have the opportunity to vote Republican for somebody that shares our political and moral values and somebody that will defend the Constitution. Donald Trump took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States of America. In that regard he failed miserably. And that is what cost him a second term.

Think it probably time to get back to Savages....

I know this is the Savage 99 forum, but I didn't open up or pen the previous comment, but You got to be kiddin me!!!! The DNC Grape Kool-Aid abounds!!!

Trump got voted in because of a deep aversion to Hillary, not because he was viewed as having the magic to be a great president. Even at that it was a close call because Trump's reputation preceded him.

Fast forward to last week. It was Trump's election to lose, and he did. I mourn tremendously. Had he toned down his bombastic rhetoric and worked on his "domestic diplomacy" a little harder I bet it would've been different. Too many otherwise rational people did what was done four years ago- voted against someone rather than for someone.

I've said all my life that our nation's survival depends upon level headed rational leadership that is middle of the road in nature. Extreme right is as bad as extreme left. Events of the 20th century proved that time and again. I personally don't want to experiment with either.

The election results are the end of the world only if we allow it. Keep calm but vigilant.

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”

― Alexander Fraser Tytler
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I agree with Gary for the most part, but it runs much deeper than that. We are at the point of no return. The above quote rings true in the 8+ democratic societies that failed before us. We gave it a good run, lasting over the 200 year average, but I'm afraid we are on the brink of becoming a historical statistic. Those whom haven't learned from history are condemned to repeat it.

For those who like an educated factual take on most dilemma's faced in todays world, I highly recommend reading or You-Tube Thomas Sowell.

This election could not have been any clearer. Biden and Harris absolutely, positively want your guns, ALL of them. You weren't voting for Trump, you were voting for the rule of law, the Constitution, and against socialism. Should I thank you for helping elect our new president or supporting the United States of America as a Constitutional republic?

There was a faction within registered Republican voters that were willing to take the chemo and the radiation to kill the cancer. Enough to cost Trump a second term. Those are the results.

It's not my fault Trump lost the election. Don't kill the messenger. My vote meant nothing.

Does this mean we can't hunt together?

Did you vote for Biden? I don't want to hunt with anyone that did.

Fireball I finally uploaded pics of the black tail......WOW! How old do you think it was?

Any ways what I don't understand is the following.

1. No republican lost their seat in the house and senate?

2. Did all these votes against trump not have any other choices?

3. Is the president the only republican loser?

4. Is it true 11 states had more ballots cast than they had registered voters?

Something is rotten in all of this.

John,
As blacktails go, he was an old guy, but I don't know his exact age.

I forgot to mention he had cougar claw marks on his front shoulder. it's not all that uncommon here.

The next few weeks will shake out the truth on the election, I hope.

I voted my conscience.

I'm no fan of Joe Biden and whatever her name is.....

He looks old by the length of his nose!

It is a dandy IMO.

I didn't vote. Not because I didn't want to, rather I couldn't. Entering hospital on an emergency basis the night before election day precluded my entering a voting booth. (And me having always been an advocate for in-person voting confirmed by picture ID- ironic, huh?)

First election of any type I've missed since I first voted in 1972.

Hope you are getting better Gary.

I'd hunt with you anytime, anyplace Gary despite who you would have voted for if you could have.

Just sayin...

Get well soon!

A liberal with a gun is NOT a visual I could handle.

Yes but then we have to worry about them stealing the 2 seats in Georgia, they already stole the John James election in Michigan, Cant believe there is no way to stop this.

I hear you fellow pennsylvanian., ashamed to be a resident here. It seems our state and the large cities in it are the most corrupt. Thinking of moving to FL , at least they have decent republican govt. down there, but I guess that will change too.

If you're referring to Randy, you couldn't be more wrong. A more level headed guy you would never hope to meet.

Point of fact, I count more than a couple liberal folks among my best friends. We simply know which hot topics to avoid when together. Everybody brings something to the party- even cantankerous curmudgeons!

Well said gnoahhh.......

My mother said Joe Biden was her favorite politician.........

She has passed now.....

But I couldn't ban her from my heart ❤️

Ain't happening.....

Hope you are feeling better.

I also agree with you..this was Trumps to lose.....he should have looked at things a little differently.

But I am gutted he lost.

I don't like liberals........unless I call them Mom.

This election isn't normal. The entire republic is at risk of falling. This is no small deal! I pray Trump can prevail and revamp the election process before it's too late. It should have been done before now!!!!

It is a huge task for Trump .

He seems like an outsider.....no one wants to play with them.

But I agree this was not an election, it was a coup.

Liberals, generally speaking are fine. They hold many of the same values most of us conservatives do.
The left is my concern. I share no values with them.
I can be friends with a liberal. No chance of being a friend with anyone from the left.

Just curious, what is your methodology for distinguishing between the two. Where and how do you draw the line?

WTF are you talking about? Do you VOTE??????????????????

There seems to be a mix up here concerning whether a liberal and a left wing fascist are the same thing. They are not but if the liberal supports the left wing fascist they are a "useful idiot". See my above post on "useful idiots".
What old otter said is true. A democratically elected republic starts out with the seeds of its own destruction. It slowly in the case of the U.S. or quickly in the case of some countries goes downhill until it consumes itself. This is due to some human beings being inherently evil and doing whatever they can to steal from their fellow man. Note certain left wing fascist governments releasing criminals from the jails and not requiring bond from people who have been arrested for crimes. These same people are defunding the police. These governors and mayors are criminals. They are following in Hitler's footsteps. He defunded the police in Germany in 1933 so they wouldn't interfere with the criminal activities of his brown shirts. ANTIFA is the modern Democrat's brown shirts.

Yes I vote. I always vote.
Yes I'm a conservative. Very Republican and very Conservative.
I can argue with and yet be friends with a Liberal. No chance with a leftist. None.
A leftist in my opinion is a lost cause. A fool a complete idiot. 100% dependent on Government.
These are my opinions and thoughts on the differences. I feel the problem is, most Liberals have shifted far left with time just because of whatthe Democratic party has become.

These are very unsettling times.....

But to answer the original question.....

Since I got a purchase of a spare magazine I am adding a savage to the collection!

Fuggg it ! Come get it beach!

That will be the day.

Maybe JUST maybe we agree. I try to keep myself out of trouble, but most times it doesn't work. My take is you are either a Republican or a Democrat. A democrat is a lefty/liberal. To me, one and the same. BOTH enemies of my principles. Admittedly, your view is more forgiving than mine. I stay as far away from Dems as I possibly can,

I don't expect any more federal anti gun laws.

But here in WA state, we get more anti gun laws every 2 years.

How are liberals, who put leftists into positions of power, any less harmful to our country than the said leftists?