Don't see these often. Late 1920 probably, possibly early 1921 - serial 230,611.

Double stamped, as well. Receiver ring and barrel.

Now I have to go check all of mine! Guess I can spare 1 minute.

They did SAP for just a short time in this timeframe, then switched to the SP stamp.

231506 has SAP in both locations, too.

2287xx has no proof stamps.

I don't show the SA proof till around the 29xxxx range. SA then SAP then back to SA.

I would guess back to the factory for a barrel but who knows. Thanks Keith. Alway gets more interesting when you find more than one.

The barrel address doesn't help much. The only photo that will not in-large for me on the OZ sight is the one showing the proof stamp!

Rick.. do you mean 229,xxx? Or 29x,xxx?

29x,xxx would be 1927. Or am I off by 7 years.. thought they started the proof stamping in late 1920.

Apparently I'm off.

29xxxx but I'm real hit and miss on data. Might be worth collecting more.

I just noticed that one of the T mount photos in the "99 RS" posting appears to be double stamped.

Here it is. Style 4.

It is the proof stamp photo that won't blow up for me.

The barrel stamp would have been original to the rifle and might have been still around for a rebarrel.

Probable just an option by the guy with the hammer and stamp.

Well, my theory that the "P" in the ledgers means the barrel or rifle was proofed at the factory, and they stopped recording the "P" when they started proof stamping the barrels depends on proof stamps being in the 229,xxx range. They stopped recording the "P" in the ledgers something around late 1920 to 1922.

But I see a number of early 20's guns without stamps. Dang. Another theory shot down, unless we find more SP stamps.

If my data is in the ballpark it would be sometime in 1927. Lots of changes stared then.

Quick searching...

216898 - 250-3000 - No proof stamp
224677 - ?? - ""
240653 - 99G 250 - ""
241571 - 99G 250 - ""
242421 - 99D 300 - ""
242802 - 99G cased - ""
247666 - 99G 300 - ""
250262 - 99F 22HP - ""
25341x - 99G 250 - ""
2619xx - 99G 303 - ""
268702 - 99H 303 - ""
283,5xx - 99G 30-30 - ""
284,639 - 99F 250 - ""
285,00x - 99G cased - ""
287314 - 99H 303 - ""
293222 - 99G 300 - SP
294024 - 99G 30-30 - SP
296464 - 99G 300 - SP
296945 - 99H 30-30 - SP
297519 - 99F 30-30 - SP
298619 - 99G 300 - SP

So looks like we need some more rifles from around 229,xxx to 232,xxx to check for more SAP's. And more in the 287,xxx to 292,xxx range.

Well... sumb... umm... son of a gun!

NOT what I expected to find.

1899A SR takedown, serial number 228,70x.

Dang thing IS stamped.

Do you have a barrel address on that last photo?

It's my SR that's in a case. Already put it away.

Don't you have a similar one in that serial number range also?

216898 - 250-3000 - No proof stamp
224677 - ?? - ""
240653 - 99G 250 - ""
241571 - 99G 250 - ""
242421 - 99D 300 - ""
242802 - 99G cased - ""
247666 - 99G 300 - ""
250262 - 99F 22HP - ""
25341x - 99G 250 - ""
2619xx - 99G 303 - ""
268702 - 99H 303 - ""
283,5xx - 99G 30-30 - ""
284,639 - 99F 250 - ""
285,00x - 99G cased - ""
287314 - 99H 303 - ""
293222 - 99G 300 - SP
294024 - 99G 30-30 - SP
296464 - 99G 300 - SP
296945 - 99H 30-30 - SP
297519 - 99F 30-30 - SP
298619 - 99G 300 - SP
298636 - 99K 300 - SP 1st I have
317205 to 334495 SAP 31 examples
337595 and 337771 back to SP then no more data.

216898 - 250-3000 - No proof stamp
224677 - ?? - No proof stamp
22870x - 1899A SR 303 - SAP on bottom of barrel
230611 - 1899H 22HP - SAP on receiver ring and top of barrel
231506 - ?? - SAP on receiver ring and top of barrel
240653 - 99G 250 - No proof stamp
241571 - 99G 250 - ""
242421 - 99D 300 - ""
242802 - 99G cased - ""
247666 - 99G 300 - ""
250262 - 99F 22HP - ""
25341x - 99G 250 - ""
2619xx - 99G 303 - ""
268702 - 99H 303 - ""
283,5xx - 99G 30-30 - ""
284,639 - 99F 250 - ""
285,00x - 99G cased - ""
287314 - 99H 303 - ""
293222 - 99G 300 - SP
294024 - 99G 30-30 - SP
296464 - 99G 300 - SP
296945 - 99H 30-30 - SP
297519 - 99F 30-30 - SP
298619 - 99G 300 - SP
298636 - 99K 300 - SP 1st I have
317205 to 334495 SAP 31 examples
337595 and 337771 back to SP then no more data.

For all of the above that say "No proof stamp", I did not or could not look at the bottom of the barrel.

I checked 16 rifles between 199xxx and 298xxx. The last was the only one with an SP stamp.

My 99-D is 234xxx... no stamp.

I don't have any in the 293xxx to 297xxx range with the stamp to look at. Need help.

I know i have1 or 2 with the SAP proof mark, i suppose you guys want me to go out and do some looking.

Well, since you bring it up...

Do you have takedowns in the 227,xxx to 233,xxx range? Might check on the bottom of the barrel for an SAP stamp there. Mine was hard to see with naked eye.

Keith seems to have found a 99F at 290,1xx that has an SP stamp both near the 300 SAVAGE stamp and on the bottom of the barrel where part of the serial number is. So might eyeball as much of the gun as you can easily get to.

Ii'll spend some time on it in the morning.might take a while.

You could probably round up any number of volunteers to help out Loggah.

Steve, Come on up,its a bit of a jaunt from PA. I dont move as fast as i used to they would probably be flying out the vault. I was thinking about you 22 guys the other day,had to work on a stevens 75 pump.

Hi Don, thanks for the invite. Its a bit of a drive but not bad. Used to go to Rochester, NH once or twice a year for business. Enjoying retirement now.

O.K. guys heres a bit more information.

H 270945 - A large P under OFF on barrel
E 288797 - SP on barrel, MP on barrel underside
E 299090 - SP on barrel, MP on barrel underside
E 300423 - SP on barrel, MP on barrel underside
K 318196 - SP on barrel, barrel is serial numbered to rifle
F 320532 - SP on barrel, barrel is serial numbered to rifle
F 323789 - SAP on barrel, barrel is serial numbered to rifle
G 334226 - SAP on barrel, barrel is serial numbered to rifle
K 334495 - SAP on barrel, barrel is serial numbered to rifle
K 335980 - SAP on barrel, SAP on barrel underside, barrel is serial numbered to rifle
H 337539 - SP on barrel
K 337595 - SP on barrel, JJ on barrel underside, barrel is serial numbered to rifle
H 339221 - SP on barrel
H 340270 - SAP on barrel
G 341700 - SP on barrel, barrel is serial numbered to rifle
G 341766 - SP on barrel, barrel is serial numbered to rifle
H 342134 - SP on barrel
H 342868 - SP on barrel
G 343834 - SP on barrel, barrel is serial numbered to rifle
RS 344256 - SP on barrel
H 346196 - SP on barrel
G 346437 - SP on barrel, barrel is serial numbered to rifle
RS 347363 - SP on barrel
EG 352390 - SP on barrel, no markings on underside of barrel
T 353421 - SP on barrel
F Winship cased gun 318042 - SAP on receiver, SAP on barrel, barrel is serial numbered to rifle

Thanks, Don! Definitely finding new stuff (to me). SAP on 340,270 is odd. Using up an older barrel probably.

Other than #340270 the highest SAP on Don’s list is #335980. #336084 is a .30-30 G with SP on the barrel.