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Posted By: girlguncollector Ammo crates - 12/14/23
I saw a thread on the different power cans. I wanted to see about starting a discussion on wooden ammo crates. Below are 2 of the savage crates I have. My question is how many different calibers of crates would there be? Also how many companies made savage ammo and shipped in wooden crates?

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Posted By: olgrouser Re: Ammo crates - 12/14/23
IIRC and am not mistaken I thought Stever, "1899sav" brought an unopened full crate of 250-3000 to a Fest. A Winchester? Sadly I didn't save an image.

Rory ??!!
Posted By: 99guy Re: Ammo crates - 12/14/23
Originally Posted by olgrouser
IIRC and am not mistaken I thought Stever, "1899sav" brought an unopened full crate of 250-3000 to a Fest. A Winchester? Sadly I didn't save an image.

Rory ??!!

Actually, Steve had a full crate of Savage brand 250-3000 for sale for a long time. Don't know if he ever sold them or not?
Posted By: Southern_WI_Savage Re: Ammo crates - 12/14/23
Originally Posted by girlguncollector
I saw a thread on the different power cans. I wanted to see about starting a discussion on wooden ammo crates. Below are 2 of the savage crates I have. My question is how many different calibers of crates would there be? Also how many companies made savage ammo and shipped in wooden crates?
I'd imagine all the major ammunition manufactures used wooden crates for bulk shipments. Winchester, Savage, Peters, etc.
Different calibers? All of them. wink

For Savage folks, Utica, Chicopee and Westfield in that order. Older is better.
Calibers? They're all good, some are just better. Cool factor varies from individual to individual.

They are a nice addition to any cave.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Ammo crates - 12/14/23
I see a lot fewer centerfire than shotshell or rim fire crates.

"Also how many companies made savage ammo and shipped in wooden crates?"
Do you mean how many companies produced ammo for Savage or just sold ammo in the Savage calibers?
Posted By: svg250 Re: Ammo crates - 12/14/23
Ive got one savage arms corp crate chicopee falls address, 270 winchester caliber. I keep shed antlers in it.
Posted By: Southern_WI_Savage Re: Ammo crates - 12/14/23
The small crate has "small arms ammunition" printed on the other side.
The large crate has "fragile handle with care" printed on the other side. Pistols??

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It ain't Loggah's or Fug's, but it's a start...

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Posted By: KeithNyst Re: Ammo crates - 12/14/23
When did Savage stop making ammunition? ... and when did Savage stop selling Savage-branded ammo, regardless of who made it?
Posted By: Southern_WI_Savage Re: Ammo crates - 12/14/23
Originally Posted by KeithNyst
When did Savage stop making ammunition? ... and when did Savage stop selling Savage-branded ammo, regardless of who made it?
Zimmerman says..........

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Posted By: Jaaack Re: Ammo crates - 12/14/23
Per Peter Zimmerman's [/i]Savage Ammunition[i], Savage brand ammunition was manufactured as follows:

1895 - 1899 UMC
1900 - 1927 Savage (From 1900 - 1927 Savage was forced to manufacture their own ammunition after the industry refused to make ammunition for them.)
1928 - 1934 USCC (corrected)
1935 - 1963 Remington

Savage brand ammunition production ended in 1963.
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: Ammo crates - 12/14/23
I'm old enough to remember wooden ammo shipping boxes being used strictly for greasy old car parts storage under work benches and as kindling wood. Once as a kid I varnished a Winchester box for use as a magazine holder and my Old Man said I was nuts and could've made a nicer receptacle out of some of the oak in the shop. Eventually when the magazines got tossed in the trash the box went with them.

I guess it's a wonder that any have survived to this day as they were intended to be disposable and were treated as such.

Anecdotally, my Grandfather snagged empty dynamite boxes from a local coal mine - just as colorful as ammo crates and universally built with box joints (finger joints) - he must've glommed onto hundreds of them in total, and they all went into the wood stove that heated his shop. My regret as a kid was that I never found any stray sticks of dynamite in any of the boxes as I smashed them up with a hammer.
Posted By: damnesia Re: Ammo crates - 12/14/23
This ammo box talk got me thinking of the wooden Hercules dynamite boxes my Dad uses to store stuff in in his garage. Unfortunately no wooden ammo boxes though.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Ammo crates - 12/14/23
I've got a Winchester Super Speed 300 SAVAGE create on my desk holding copies of my book that I send out for ebay/gunbroker sales. Would love to run into more, but as said most crates are shotshell.
Posted By: Poconojack Re: Ammo crates - 12/14/23
Have had 35 or so Winchester Cartridge (not shotgun) boxes over the years. My favorites are the older dovetail boxes. Still come across a couple a year at the markets, but like everything they’ve gotten a lot more expensive.
Posted By: Southern_WI_Savage Re: Ammo crates - 12/14/23
Welp, I learned there is a book for powder cans.
Is there a book for ammunition crates??
Posted By: girlguncollector Re: Ammo crates - 12/15/23
I was thinking of how many crates that have the savage calibers. Like the 300 savage crate but different companies.
Originally Posted by Rick99
I see a lot fewer centerfire than shotshell or rim fire crates.

"Also how many companies made savage ammo and shipped in wooden crates?"
Do you mean how many companies produced ammo for Savage or just sold ammo in the Savage calibers?
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: Ammo crates - 12/15/23
Originally Posted by Poconojack
Have had 35 or so Winchester Cartridge (not shotgun) boxes over the years. My favorites are the older dovetail boxes. Still come across a couple a year at the markets, but like everything they’ve gotten a lot more expensive.

Dovetailed boxes? Are you sure they weren't finger jointed? I never saw a dovetailed box, but never say never I suppose.
Posted By: Poconojack Re: Ammo crates - 12/15/23
Sun,
Certain that Winchester, UMC/Remington Peters and Dominion (Canada) manufactured ammunition for all of the proprietary Savage cartridges. There probably are others
Posted By: Poconojack Re: Ammo crates - 12/15/23
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Originally Posted by Poconojack
Have had 35 or so Winchester Cartridge (not shotgun) boxes over the years. My favorites are the older dovetail boxes. Still come across a couple a year at the markets, but like everything they’ve gotten a lot more expensive.

Dovetailed boxes? Are you sure they weren't finger jointed? I never saw a dovetailed box, but never say never I suppose.

Finger joints they are Gary
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Ammo crates - 12/15/23
1963 was the last year for Savage brand ammo and the first year for the government child warning. pic of last year ammo box.
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Posted By: Longbeardking Re: Ammo crates - 12/16/23
Here are a few of Fug's crates. Sorry it took so long for me to get these posted. My server took it's sweet time.

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Posted By: damnesia Re: Ammo crates - 12/16/23
Good lord, does Fug have a time machine?
Posted By: Longbeardking Re: Ammo crates - 12/16/23
Originally Posted by damnesia
Good lord, does Fug have a time machine?

No, but he has everything else.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Ammo crates - 12/16/23
laugh laugh laugh... agree,
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Posted By: girlguncollector Re: Ammo crates - 12/17/23
Thank you for that information. Looks like I will be able to find many different types of boxes from different manufacturers.

Originally Posted by Poconojack
Sun,
Certain that Winchester, UMC/Remington Peters and Dominion (Canada) manufactured ammunition for all of the proprietary Savage cartridges. There probably are others
Posted By: girlguncollector Re: Ammo crates - 12/17/23
Those are some nice crates.I love all of them.

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Here are a few of Fug's crates. Sorry it took so long for me to get these posted. My server took it's sweet time.

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Posted By: ROMAC Re: Ammo crates - 12/17/23
Somewhere back in time there was a picture posted of a prison armory that had cases of Savage ammo stacked up along a wall.


Maybe 12-15 years ago.
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Ammo crates - 12/17/23
A little OT, but I had two absolutely beautiful dove tailed DuPont Dynamite wood crates that I found in a barn on a property my parents had. My little sister lived a couple doors up from an antique store. Guess where the crates went?
Posted By: girlguncollector Re: Ammo crates - 12/18/23
I have a question on the 270 Winchester crate. What savage rifle would this ammo have been produced for or was savage producing 270 branded ammo to break into the ammo market?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Ammo crates - 12/18/23
Just selling ammo at that time, unless the crate dates to after intro of the Model 110.

Savage also sold ammo in 35 Rem, 32 Win Special, 30-40 Krag, and others that they never made rifles for. So there would almost surely be crates for those that were made.
Posted By: Poconojack Re: Ammo crates - 12/18/23
Originally Posted by girlguncollector
I have a question on the 270 Winchester crate. What savage rifle would this ammo have been produced for or was savage producing 270 branded ammo to break into the ammo market?

Sun,
Savage was manufacturing 270 ammo to make money
Posted By: ROMAC Re: Ammo crates - 12/19/23
I've got a couple of Explosives crates and few shotgun shell crates but no Savage ones.


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Posted By: HalH Re: Ammo crates - 12/19/23
Originally Posted by Longbeardking
Here are a few of Fug's crates. Sorry it took so long for me to get these posted. My server took it's sweet time.

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Long beard
Are some of those ammo boxes full ? Wow

Hal
Posted By: Longbeardking Re: Ammo crates - 12/19/23
Originally Posted by HalH
Originally Posted by Longbeardking
Here are a few of Fug's crates. Sorry it took so long for me to get these posted. My server took it's sweet time.

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Long beard
Are some of those ammo boxes full ? Wow

Hal

You should be asking the owner. These all belong to Fug1899. He will have an answer in due time.
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