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Posted By: tbear99 270 savage - 04/12/08
ok do any members have a 99 in 270 savage or any experience with i'm thinking about acquiring another 300 to make one
Posted By: tbear99 Re: 270 savage - 04/12/08
No the cas length is same i believe.The 270 is a 300 sav necked down to 270.There are different version such as ackly and titus
Posted By: XCIX Re: 270 savage - 04/12/08
why? :)dh
Posted By: rgr223cal Re: 270 savage - 04/12/08
tbear99, I deleted that post! I typed before I thought!! grin grin grin

Mike...
Posted By: tbear99 Re: 270 savage - 04/12/08
You ask why i ask why not.Not everyone has one like a 270 win
Posted By: rgr223cal Re: 270 savage - 04/12/08
tbear99, do you have any data that shows that it would be worth while??? Sounds like a great idea. I have read that it has been done but I can not remember from who!!!


Mike...
Posted By: tbear99 Re: 270 savage - 04/12/08
having something diferent makes it worth while to me the data i've read said performance is almost equal to 270 win
Posted By: rgr223cal Re: 270 savage - 04/12/08
If you decide to go ahead with the project, please keep me updated with you progress. (PM's) I would be very interested in what you do and how it goes!!

Thanks, Mike...
Posted By: Jed 1899 Re: 270 savage - 04/12/08
How you gonna get a 27 cal ball to accurately come out of a 30 cal. tube?
Posted By: rgr223cal Re: 270 savage - 04/12/08
mmmmmmmmmmmmm...............


Newton would love to figure that one out!!!! grin grin grin


Mike...
Posted By: tbear99 Re: 270 savage - 04/12/08
well from my reading you rebarrel for 270 and i'm planning on contacting hart barrels about an hour away to make a barrel and to install.The part i'm not sure is i want it to look like a natural everyday 99 so i have to talk to them but i believe they will do it.I have to acquire another 300 the 2 i have one was grandpa's and the other just shoots soo damn good i couldn't think of the conversion on it.I should post pics of them so you guys can tell me what mod's they are
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: 270 savage - 04/12/08
Come on guys, cut him some slack. It's a valid inquiry.

Don't know of any campfire member that's actually owned or done one. It didn't generate a lot of interest.

I'd just look for a .284 if ya want a 7mm Savage.
Posted By: tbear99 Re: 270 savage - 04/12/08
thanx lightfoot i read these conversions were done as far back as 40's i figured maybe someone here might of acquired one or had one done i've got more guns then average so all the regular bases are covered time to explore
Posted By: 6mm250 Re: 270 savage - 04/12/08
Originally Posted by Jed 1899
How you gonna get a 27 cal ball to accurately come out of a 30 cal. tube?
Originally Posted by rgr223cal
mmmmmmmmmmmmm...............


Newton would love to figure that one out!!!! grin grin grin


Mike...


Sabot

Mike
Posted By: 6mm250 Re: 270 savage - 04/12/08
I have a 300EG rat & from time to time I think about making it into a 270 Savage , that's as far as it gets , thinking about it.
I probably will never do it.

Mike
Posted By: tbear99 Re: 270 savage - 04/12/08
what mod 99 was during the 50's i think that would put the time period nice for build
Posted By: crowmagnum Re: 270 savage - 04/13/08
Maybe he's thinking different barrel
Posted By: ctw Re: 270 savage - 04/13/08
lightfoot i have always thought the 7-30 waters was the perfect 99 chamber the 284-300 would be interesting as well.
thanks chris
Posted By: Calhoun Re: 270 savage - 04/13/08
tbear, put any thought into getting a 300 Savage takedown? Then putting money into a 270 Savage barrel won't affect the original rifle. And with the way prices are climbing the original rifle will probably increase in value in 5 years enough to cover the barrel price. grin
Posted By: tbear99 Re: 270 savage - 04/13/08
well calhoun haven't thought of that that would be great when you think of it.what letter codes are the take down 300's?
Posted By: tbear99 Re: 270 savage - 04/13/08
crowmagnum i thought that people would understand if i'm thinking of having hart make a barrel then it would be a different barrel i guess i shouldn't assume thanx for helping others understand
Posted By: ldorado Re: 270 savage - 04/13/08
Makes sense to me. Like pounding dollars into the shape of a boomerang. It might come back.
Posted By: RedForeman Re: 270 savage - 04/13/08
I don't understand how you could shoot a .270 cal bullet down a .30 cal barrel and hope to have any accuracy.Now if you rebored a .243 or 22 hp I could understand.Are you talking about getting a .270 cal barrel made that would fit on to a .300 sav action ,then necking down .300 sav brass?
Posted By: tbear99 Re: 270 savage - 04/13/08
ok let me put this in english THIS WILL BE A NEW TUBE have none of you ever customised a gun that an action can be used for more then original caliber
Posted By: Calhoun Re: 270 savage - 04/13/08
tbear, the 99G would be the most common takedown you'll find. Others would be the 99B, 99D, or 99F. I think we can eliminate a 99K from the project. grin
Posted By: Violator22 Re: 270 savage - 04/13/08
Hey guys, remember it is tbears money, and if he wants to put a new tube on it for another caliber, its his choice. I got no problem with it, he is keeping the original barrel correct, better than taking a nice 1899 H in 30-30 and turning it into a pig gun! I'm wandering...........sorry, not to name any names grin You know who you are. Les
Posted By: johno Re: 270 savage - 04/13/08
Bear, If you get hold of Ackley reloading manual number 1 page 376 you will find something on this cartridge. In fact Roy Tripllett among others did this way back in 1945. Pay no regard to those putting this down as its a great choice, the 277 cal bullet balances almost perfectly to the case capacity of the 300. Even based on conservative figures of 2700fps you will have a great deer cartridge you could also look at the 7mm.

If you have a donor rifle go for it, and I think it would make a great set up on a take down. Back to my favorite dream of a 22-250, 250 savage and or 300sav/300/270 0r 300/7mm. on the one action

good luck
Johno
Posted By: tbear99 Re: 270 savage - 04/13/08
yes les i plan on keeping the origanal barrel i like the idea of take down and think i will pursue that route.I want the new tube to look like factory original so that is where once i have the new donor i'll talk to hart and see what we can do
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: 270 savage - 04/14/08
Just re-remembered that the .270 Savage was 'invented' by Titus - found this reference.

http://books.google.com/books?id=dN2Riq7zfToC&pg=PA259&lpg=PA259&dq=savage+titus+300&source=web&ots=kSykq8OqE-&sig=4AUiXKJAc95ljFWvwSymkvVKFnM&hl=en#PPA259,M1
Posted By: olgrouser Re: 270 savage - 04/14/08
Thanks for sharing that little JEWEL on the Titus, Mike.

tbear, I like your idea for switch barrel 270 Sav. smile

Posted By: tbear99 Re: 270 savage - 04/14/08
lightfoot thanx for link as stated in that article a few different people are said to invent but no one seems to be positive on who was first.i'm not gonna gain nothing over a 270 win but it will be unique and not everyone will have one the work will probally start about july alot more research needs to be done smith's finding donor making a few cases up so smith or barrel maker can adjust and make everything properly
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: 270 savage - 04/15/08
This is your quest but I think a .284 bore beats a .277 any day...

.284 Win or 7mm-08 would be my pick.

I've loaded and shot a boatload of .300 Savage and that short little neck looks like it would be tough to downsize while making longer at the same time.

Maybe I'm just getting old...
Posted By: atkinsonhunting Re: 270 savage - 04/17/08
I would think the 270/308 would be a much better option, but that's just IMO...For that matter the .284 pretty much fills the same space...
Posted By: Calhoun Re: 270 savage - 04/17/08
270/308, 284, 7mm08.. none would work on a takedown. They'd all need the extended magazines of the 900,000+ serial number or the postmil receivers.

So if you wanted an extra barrel for a takedown, the 270 Savage isn't a bad answer.

Be kind of fun to wildcat a 284 Savage though.
Posted By: tbear99 Re: 270 savage - 04/18/08
thanx calhoun this might turn out to be a trifecta project with 300,410 and 270sav
Posted By: ldorado Re: 270 savage - 04/18/08
An additional fecta, with no work involved, would be a takedown barrel in 250. But if you had a 250 barrel, why would you want any of the others.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: 270 savage - 04/18/08
+1! grin
Posted By: tbear99 Re: 270 savage - 04/18/08
i do have a 1899 250-3000 that is takedown it's a shooter not in collectable catagory
Posted By: daveo Re: 270 savage - 04/19/08
Some thing to consider is that the rotor will not necessarily work like you might think, unless you have seen it done already, or someone knows that it can be done. I had catastrophic results when I tried to cycle 22-250 rounds in a .250 Rotor. Damn near shot my wife, and lost all respect for loading a gun in the house. some you you may remember the story! "Will a 300 Rotor Cycle a .270 round?" Better find out before you spend the bucks!
Posted By: rgr223cal Re: 270 savage - 04/19/08
Swapping a rotor takes all of 5 minutes. If you gotta switch the barrel, assuming this is done with a takedown rifle, switch the rotor also!!

Mike...
Posted By: daveo Re: 270 savage - 04/19/08
But how do you make the Rotor handle the .270 round? Does it have to be reshaped some?
Posted By: rgr223cal Re: 270 savage - 04/19/08
The .270 sav. is a .300 sav, just necked down. In that case you would not have to change the rotor anyways, I would think??


Mike...
Posted By: daveo Re: 270 savage - 04/19/08
That is what I thought about the 22-250. Not so!
Posted By: tbear99 Re: 270 savage - 04/19/08
daveo i don't understand how a gun that is chambered for 300 not feed a 300 round that is necked down.Iknow it has been done in past with the knowledge of 270 sav being based on a 300 savage model 99 rifle.Is the 22-250 based on the 250 savage?
Posted By: daveo Re: 270 savage - 04/19/08
I just took it for granted that the 22-250 and 250-3000 were the same case only necked down. and spent a lot of money on a custom barrel having an EG made into an 22-250. Worked great as long as I shot it single shot. The [bleep] hit the fan when I loaded the rotor with five rounds and tried to cycle the lever. BANG!!! (I can't believe you guys won't let me swear on this grown up forum!)
Posted By: sactoller Re: 270 savage - 04/19/08
Originally Posted by daveo
I just took it for granted that the 22-250 and 250-3000 were the same case only necked down. and spent a lot of money on a custom barrel having an EG made into an 22-250. Worked great as long as I shot it single shot. The [bleep] hit the fan when I loaded the rotor with five rounds and tried to cycle the lever. BANG!!! (I can't believe you guys won't let me swear on this grown up forum!)


I have a tang safety 99 in 250 that was a basket case. I had a .22-250 barrel put on and it shoots and cycles just fine.
Posted By: daveo Re: 270 savage - 04/19/08
Well I had some bad luck then, because I had a mechanical malfunction that just about killed my spouse and embarassed be a lot! So, I had the EG that malfunctioned repaired and sold it. I have a very nice custom barrel for sale(22-250)
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