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Posted By: Fireball2 CE< PE< DE - 09/06/17
Anybody hunt one? Curious if any make it out in the woods.

Anything to talk about, or post mil pos?
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/06/17
I have a 99DE in 308 that had been hunted when I bought is for $375 at a gun show in Wichita, KS, back in 1992. I hunted with it once or twice and then cleaned it, sprayed it with Rust Guardit, and put it into the box where it has been for the past quarter century.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/06/17
The DE is the model with the scroll engraving on the side rather than the game scenes, iirc. Looks a little like the early Savage scrollwork.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/07/17
No love for the first engraved 99 since the 1940's.
Posted By: S99VG Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/07/17
Not much interest on my part, but high end guns never really turned my screws.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/07/17
I think the PE, DE's only had exterior changes and shouldn't hunt any different than the standard products of the time...other than for the more reflective surface.

Given the increase in value, even for "hunted" rifles, the majority have been retired to the collectors rack.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/07/17
Hand engraved or machine made on these? Murrays book shows the DE @$285 and the PE @ $360 in 1970. Inflation calculator shows a multiplier of 6.3 for todays $. A couple grand for an engraved 99 with high end wood? Seems pretty cheap to me.

*Answered my own question by reading the fine print in Murrays-

Hand engraved on the PE, scroll engraved on the DE. I'm guessing hand engraved on the CE.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/07/17
I've heard rumors that the PE and DE receivers were sent to Germany for engraving. David
Posted By: Calhoun Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/07/17
Originally Posted by wyo1895
I've heard rumors that the PE and DE receivers were sent to Germany for engraving. David

Also what I've heard. Rick, did JTC pass that tidbit along to us?
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/07/17
The one PE I have says 99M on the receiver like a DL.
Different game scenes on the receivers of the PE and CE, although both have an elk on one side and a cat on the other. The cat's different.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/07/17
DL, PE and DE's all are marked 99M. The "M" stands for Monte Carlo as in Monte Carlo stock. John Alan may have told me that they were engraved in Germany. The engraving on the PE and CE are similar but not identical. See pages 98, 99 and 109 of my book. The elk on the left side of the RMEF commemorative is similar too, see p. 110. David
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/08/17
David I can't find your book since I moved, along with a few other things like the rangefinder. They're probably all together, somewhere.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/08/17
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Originally Posted by wyo1895
I've heard rumors that the PE and DE receivers were sent to Germany for engraving. David

Also what I've heard. Rick, did JTC pass that tidbit along to us?


I thought that the early PE, DE's were German engraving but they were not fast enough and later ones were done in Japan. Might be why there are bright and dull finishes (?). A lot of nice Winchester reproduction rifles have come from Japan. I have a couple of the Browning Winchester Model 52C Sporters, Model 53 (sold) and a 65.
Posted By: ctw Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/08/17
Rick what were the early blued ones? The German ones?
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/09/17
Originally Posted by Rick99
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Originally Posted by wyo1895
I've heard rumors that the PE and DE receivers were sent to Germany for engraving. David

Also what I've heard. Rick, did JTC pass that tidbit along to us?


I thought that the early PE, DE's were German engraving but they were not fast enough and later ones were done in Japan. Might be why there are bright and dull finishes (?). A lot of nice Winchester reproduction rifles have come from Japan. I have a couple of the Browning Winchester Model 52C Sporters, Model 53 (sold) and a 65.



I wondered why the PE was dull and the CE was so bright and shiny.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/09/17
My DE is really bright. We had a heck of a time toning down the bottom of the receiver to get the photo of the deer that is on p.97, fig. 7-10. We never could get rid of the shadow below the deer. David
Posted By: Rick99 Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/10/17
Originally Posted by ctw
Rick what were the early blued ones? The German ones?


They went to the salesmen. Not sure what the serial range is on these rifles (13 ea.).

Should collect the data on serials for bright, dull, blued, oak/pine, etc. to see if there is a pattern.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/10/17
John Alan has/had some of the blued ones. Maybe you could get serial number data from him. David
Posted By: Savageupnorth Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/10/17
All of the last of John Allen's engraved 99s went to Texas! 26 to same buyer I believe? He would still have his records.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/10/17
Originally Posted by Savageupnorth
All of the last of John Allen's engraved 99s went to Texas! 26 to same buyer I believe? He would still have his records.

Hope he stored them on the second story.
Posted By: ed7189 Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/16/17
Just talked to John Allen at the gun show here. The guy from Texas bought all his engraved rifles including his K's. The guy apparently wants to start a Savage 99 museum down there. How about that. If he did, would you go?
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/16/17
Too far just to see the museum. If I were in the area for vacation or whatever, definitely, Joe.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/17/17
" If he did, would you go?"

Only if they were available for research. Looking at rifles behind class that can't answer my questions hold little interest.
Posted By: sqweeler Re: CE< PE< DE - 09/17/17
"Acid etched" in Italy if I remember correctly. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...0/re-questions-about-99pe-de#Post5057690
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