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Posted By: wyo1895 Savage buttplates - 01/04/19
I should have put these in a new post.
1895 hard rubber bp. this is on a factory embellished 1895 half octagon.
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standard crescent bp. I'm taking these photos out of my files and am not sure which rifle this is on.
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very early unmarked steel shotgun type BP on an 1899 26" round barrel with "B" engraving, high grade wood and checkering
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early logo buttplate. 1913 vintage short rifle TD
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SRC bp, not sure which carbine, may not be one of mine. The Montreal Home Guard musket used the same bp
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rare schutzen bp used on a few schutzen 1899's produced in the mid 1910's, not mine
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Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage buttplates - 01/04/19
too many in the first post. here are the others.
screaming Indian bp introduced about 1914 and used until about 1926. A lot of rifles used this bp, not sure which rifle this is. Corrected per Rory's post.
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rare trapdoor bp on a highly custom factory rifle belonging to a friend of John Wrights.
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thick hard rubber bp used on an otherwise standard 1899 26" round barrel.
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More later. My picture file seems to have disappeared into cyberspace.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage buttplates - 01/04/19
Good post!

But on this one, I think you mean 1914? Came out when the 250-3000 did?
Originally Posted by wyo1895
too many in the first post. here are the others.
screaming Indian bp introduced about 1904 and used until about 1926. A lot of rifles used this bp, not sure which rifle this is.
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Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage buttplates - 01/04/19
More.
Thin hard rubber bp on a 1912 vintage 1899H 22 HP
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99H bp, notice the difference between this bp and the 1899 SRC bp. during the time I was writing my book someone tried to sell a 99H bp as a SRC bp. Won't work, the difference in shape requires different stock inletting. This BP is on a 1934 vintage 99H 30-30
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This pic shows all the bp's used on the various 99H's. left most, the bp shown above and used on variations V1-1, V1-2, V2-2, and V3-1, 2nd, V2-1 shotgun type bp, 3rd V1-3 shotgun type BP, 4th V3-2 carbine type bp, (these 3 types are unique to the model 99H) and 5th is the V3-3 bp which is shared with the other models. These carbines belong to Rick99 and I used his data to cover the 99H in detail in my book, pages 65 to 71.
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This is the standard Savage logo bp used on most models from about 1926 to maybe as late as 1946. This is on a 99G that was produced in 1933.
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#4 in the first post is on a 1912 vintage matching number TD short rifle. I am sure I have seen earlier rifles with the screaming Indian logo which Savage adopted in about 1904 or 1905. Is the SR bp a leftover used later, am I mistaken or what? any input would be greatly appreciated. David
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage buttplates - 01/04/19
Rory, you are probably right. In my last post I mention that the earlier bp appears on a 1913 vintage SR. I jumped to the conclusion that since Savage adopted the screaming eagle image in their advertising about 1904/'05 I assumed the screaming eagle bp came out at the same time. I don't have a rifle with the shotgun type steel bp made between 1904 and 1913 except the SR made in 1913. Thanks for the input. David
Posted By: S99VG Re: Savage buttplates - 01/04/19
Thank you much for posting the pictures and the information. I have always wondered how different Savage's crescent buttplate was from those that were used by Marlin and Winchester. Are they interchangeable? I think I know the answer but I would appreciate the input of an expert. Thanks again.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage buttplates - 01/04/19
S99VG, not knowing much about early Winchester and Marlins I can't answer that question. But since Marlin produced the 1895 maybe they used a Marlin crescent bp which Savage carried over into the Savage produced rifles.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage buttplates - 01/04/19
Originally Posted by wyo1895
Rory, you are probably right. In my last post I mention that the earlier bp appears on a 1913 vintage SR. I jumped to the conclusion that since Savage adopted the screaming eagle image in their advertising about 1904/'05 I assumed the screaming eagle bp came out at the same time. I don't have a rifle with the shotgun type steel bp made between 1904 and 1913 except the SR made in 1913. Thanks for the input. David

They continued using the smooth buttplate right up to the 250-3000 as far as we've been able to tell. Here's an angled picture of a 1912 1899A SR buttplate. Don't have a better picture yet, but you can see it wasn't ridged.

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Posted By: S99VG Re: Savage buttplates - 01/04/19
Originally Posted by wyo1895
S99VG, not knowing much about early Winchester and Marlins I can't answer that question. But since Marlin produced the 1895 maybe they used a Marlin crescent bp which Savage carried over into the Savage produced rifles.


I've noticed you can get reproduction crescent buttplates for Marlin and Winchester. If the three makes did interchange, then this could help out guys looking for crescent buttlpates that went missing from their 95s and early 99s. Thanks again!
Posted By: Savage5516 Re: Savage buttplates - 01/04/19
Model 99 DE
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Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage buttplates - 01/04/19
I didn't mention in this post that I was only posting pre-WWII buttplates. Except for the last few the bp's are photos from my files. I'll need to take a lot of photos to cover the subject up to the end. No time in the schedule now.
Savage 5516, the PE and DL also used that bp. I think I've seen an early 1970's F with it also. David
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage buttplates - 01/04/19
I've seen Fs from as early as 1963 with the aluminum butt plate. I guess it got whatever was handy at the moment.
Posted By: Savage5516 Re: Savage buttplates - 01/04/19
Originally Posted by wyo1895
I didn't mention in this post that I was only posting pre-WWII


Sorry I thought you were posting all 99 buttplates.
Posted By: Malcolm Re: Savage buttplates - 01/05/19
Great post Dave. Regarding the SRC , Saddle Ring Carbine plate , the handle you hear for the H' that has no saddle ring nor cheeks on the buttstock and with the abbreviated butt plate here is The Eastern Carbine.,since it is escencialy ,otherwise .the continuation of the SRC. The barrel would be lighter too.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage buttplates - 01/05/19
Malcolm, I'm a big fan of both the SRC and the 99H. Haven't killed anything with a 99H yet but someday.
Posted By: norm99 Re: Savage buttplates - 01/06/19
Originally Posted by S99VG
Originally Posted by wyo1895
S99VG, not knowing much about early Winchester and Marlins I can't answer that question. But since Marlin produced the 1895 maybe they used a Marlin crescent bp which Savage carried over into the Savage produced rifles.


I've noticed you can get reproduction crescent buttplates for Marlin and Winchester. If the three makes did interchange, then this could help out guys looking for crescent buttlpates that went missing from their 95s and early 99s. Thanks again!



NO THEY do not interchange totally different.

i have tryed to get a guy to forge them but he won't
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage buttplates - 01/06/19
Norm I need your address, I have an 1895 buttstock and plate here for you.
Posted By: Malcolm Re: Savage buttplates - 01/08/19
Originally Posted by wyo1895
Malcolm, I'm a big fan of both the SRC and the 99H. Haven't killed anything with a 99H yet but someday.


No I never kill anything Dave , guess I wouldn't make the club but it just bothers me. I sure do like the guns though , though I know what there 're for. As a matter of fact a friend of mine had an H for sale at the last gun show I was at , maybe he still has it.
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