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No, but I have a 225 win in a 340 (the red headed step child of the Savage family) does that count?
I would have thought you all ready had a 99 in 22-250, not as classy as the 225 win but same ballistics. Time for another project?

Lee
Those .225 340's are pretty rare beasts, no?

Have you tried running any .225's through any 99 actions, Roy? Wondering if the HP or .250 rotor would work best. Betting that a .250 cartridge guide would be your huckleberry.
I think Stever has/had one but I'm not sure. Yeah, already got a 22/250 but always been smitten with the 225. Just curious if they're out there and how they work.
How hard is it finding brass for the 225 these days? And admittedly I know nothing about the round outside of being aware of its existence for years.
Not hard at all if you have a pile of empty .30-30 brass.
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Not hard at all if you have a pile of empty .30-30 brass.


Gary, how do you get the rim dimension needed for 225 win, with a lathe?


Lee
Before I tried a .225 in a 99, I'd look hard at a .219 Zipper Improved. I'm fairly certain you would get similar ballistics and the cases are a lot less work to make.
Yeah. I didn't say it was easy! (No I haven't, but a long ago friend did, mainly to prove a point.) Actually, with a collet chuck and the correct tool you could do a bunch of rims in a lathe lickety split.

Sorry, being the owner of a lathe tends to shade my opinion of what's easily do-able when it comes to stuff like this.
No, but I have one built on a Hiwall. I've had the gun about 50 years. Never planned on selling
it, but things change. Beautiful wood with..exquisite checkering. Full bull Douglas supreme barrel.
15 X Unertl Ultra Varmint scope with calibrated head and both lens caps. Scope could pass for new. 240 Winchester brass (200 primed but unfired Winchester cases). RCBS dies. Wilson
case guage. Hard waterproof case. I probably haven't shot it 200 times since I had the current barrel put on it. No dings in wood or metal. I don't Have pictures, but if you are interested, contact me per the following:

Al Merithew
2601 Columbia Drive Apt B3
Endwell New York 13760

Phone: 607-240-8513
Email: [email protected]

Asking $2300.
FWIW: Winchester created the 225 Win as a replacement for the Swift. Similar ballistics.
Isnt the rim smaller on the 225? that might be a problem on a 99 action.

Johno
What does a 99 in 225 get you that a 99 in 250-3000 doesn't? A less powerful cartridge that's useful for fewer things?

Why not just get a 22HP?

Or pick up a 340? Saw 2 on web sites today for less than it probably costs to modify a 99.

I understand liking to tinker... but sometimes I wonder about folks. grin
Yes, but somebody here (mathman, or 260Remguy?) commented once about the single lugged bolt 340 not being a swell platform for the hot .225, and that's why Savage dropped it after a brief foray?

The .225 was intended to be a rimmed replacement for .22-250-class cartridges. An answer to a question seldom asked by any but single shot riflemen.

Johno- yes, but the 99 can handle both rimless and rimmed cartridges. The .225 rim is smaller than a .30-30 rim but rimmed nonetheless, while all the other dimensions are compatible with basic .30-30 case dimensions.

If I were going the .225 route I would cut to the chase and build a .219 Donaldson Wasp on a suitable single shot action and call it a day. It's what the cool kids did 60 years ago, don'tcha know?!
Aaah.. wasn't the round I was thinking of. 3400fps with 60gr bullet pretty good. Dead is dead though.. a 99 in 22HP, 250-3000 or a 22-250 will do the job.

Course, I'm the guy who sold off almost all his 99's in 30-30 because I like Savages in the original 303 better. Definitely not one for tinkering.
If you built a 225 in a 99 it better be a gun you are willing to be buried with.

Never, ever, EVER going to see your money back on that one...
Originally Posted by Calhoun
What does a 99 in 225 get you that a 99 in 250-3000 doesn't? A less powerful cartridge that's useful for fewer things?

Why not just get a 22HP?

Or pick up a 340? Saw 2 on web sites today for less than it probably costs to modify a 99.

I understand liking to tinker... but sometimes I wonder about folks. grin


Not everyone thinks a 340 is a substitute for a Savage 1899 or 99.
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Not everyone thinks a 340 is a substitute for a Savage 1899 or 99.

Not everyone thinks spending 30%+ of the cost of an 1899CD or special order 1899 just to turn a 99 into something “different” makes any sense. Why didn’t they make a 99 in 225? Because nobody wanted one...

But it’s your money, it’s yours to spend as you see fit. Have fun.
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Not everyone thinks a 340 is a substitute for a Savage 1899 or 99.

Not everyone thinks spending 30%+ of the cost of an 1899CD or special order 1899 just to turn a 99 into something “different” makes any sense. Why didn’t they make a 99 in 225? Because nobody wanted one...

But it’s your money, it’s yours to spend as you see fit. Have fun.


WTF are you talking about?
Cost of a barrel, chambering, fitting.. ain’t free. Buying a gun somebody else converted not free.

I like guns with character, I don’t care if folks buy whatever trips their trigger. A body has a right to spend the money they earn the way they want to.

Doesn’t mean it makes sense to me. grin
I have a .22 barrel blank laying around that I got in a horse trade a long time ago which cost me virtually nothing. I could profile it and thread it in my lathe and fit it up to a 99 action for $0. Biggest (and only) expense would be the cost of a .225 reamer, and the rental of same for a couple days is pretty cheap. Rotors and cartridge guides I have- I bet one of them would work. If I wanted to create a unique 99 I could do it for the cost of a brick of .22 long rifle ammo and a few hours of time.

A non-Tinkerbelle without tools and skills might blanche at the cost of having it done, and pale at the thought of doing it in the first place. But as long as no 99's were harmed in the making of this film I don't see why not. Stuff like this is done completely without regard to resale value- who cares? I have a king's ransom tied up in my "collection" but recouping the money for my estate would be impossible because of some of the bast*rds that make up said collection- but I don't care, they give me pleasure now while I'm alive and when I'm dead I won't care because, well, I'll be dead (with no heirs to consider).
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
I have a .22 barrel blank laying around that I got in a horse trade a long time ago which cost me virtually nothing. I could profile it and thread it in my lathe and fit it up to a 99 action for $0. Biggest (and only) expense would be the cost of a .225 reamer, and the rental of same for a couple days is pretty cheap. Rotors and cartridge guides I have- I bet one of them would work. If I wanted to create a unique 99 I could do it for the cost of a brick of .22 long rifle ammo and a few hours of time.

A non-Tinkerbelle without tools and skills might blanche at the cost of having it done, and pale at the thought of doing it in the first place. But as long as no 99's were harmed in the making of this film I don't see why not. Stuff like this is done completely without regard to resale value- who cares? I have a king's ransom tied up in my "collection" but recouping the money for my estate would be impossible because of some of the bast*rds that make up said collection- but I don't care, they give me pleasure now while I'm alive and when I'm dead I won't care because, well, I'll be dead (with no heirs to consider).


You really should just buy a Savage 340 and stop talking nonsense. wink
Been there, done that, and am happy to leave them for others to enjoy.
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Been there, done that, and am happy to leave them for others to enjoy.


But it's the only correct way to get a 225. Any other way to a .225 Winchester is foolish.

Indeed, building any non-factory Savage lever action is foolishness.

For three times the price of a modified Savage you could buy an 1899CD, which is of course the only logical path to take when discussing Savage lever action rifle ownership. All other paths are foolishness.

But, feel free to exercise your foolishness, no skin off my back, just letting the world know it's foolish and I don't do it because I'm righteous, and you my friend, are foolish.

But feel free. I just won't do it because I'm up here, and you're down there.
Originally Posted by Calhoun
What does a 99 in 225 get you that a 99 in 250-3000 doesn't? A less powerful cartridge that's useful for fewer things?



By this logic we should all be shooting 50 BMG's.

Tell us, were just having a bad night Rory?
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by Calhoun
What does a 99 in 225 get you that a 99 in 250-3000 doesn't? A less powerful cartridge that's useful for fewer things?



By this logic we should all be shooting 50 BMG's.

Tell us, were just having a bad night Rory?



I think he was just saying that it just did'n turn his crank , all his posts had a smilie face.

norm
Originally Posted by Fireball2
By this logic we should all be shooting 50 BMG's.

Tell us, were just having a bad night Rory?

Actually, yes, I've had a damned bad week. Working around the clock for about 3 months now, my brother almost died in a car accident a couple days ago, and my patience is non-existent.

Anything else?

gnoahh, obviously my comments weren't geared to somebody who could do the work themselves. It's like building your own Stith, somebody like LBK can do it just because it's interesting and simply because he wanted to. Make sense for anybody else to pay someone of his skill set to do it? I'd fail to see that logic..
So, all shooters must resign themselves to using strictly what the factory deemed they should have and nothing else? Savage/Winchester/Remington/Ruger know's what's best for me- love 'em or leave 'em. Meh.
Never once said you have to resign yourself to anything, I've said repeatedly you are free to do whatever you want with your time or your money.

I'm done.
O M G is this ever boring.

Yawn...
Originally Posted by norm99
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by Calhoun
What does a 99 in 225 get you that a 99 in 250-3000 doesn't? A less powerful cartridge that's useful for fewer things?



By this logic we should all be shooting 50 BMG's.

Tell us, were just having a bad night Rory?



I think he was just saying that it just did'n turn his crank , all his posts had a smilie face.


I didn't know you could get a 99 in a 50 BMG? I have to check on gun broker!
norm
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
So, all shooters must resign themselves to using strictly what the factory deemed they should have and nothing else? Savage/Winchester/Remington/Ruger know's what's best for me- love 'em or leave 'em. Meh.

this is why we have Mausers and 03 springfields. we can make them into anything our sick little minds can come up with! crazy grin

Rory , prayers for your brothers speedy recovery .
I would think that the 219 Zipper would be an ideal replacement for a shot/worn out 22 HP, 25-35 or 30-30 barrel. Easily found brass, a plethora of bullets and no action work. With no mag tube any .224 bullet can be used, it would make a great coyote hunting rifle.
Huh. I've been saying all along that the .22 HP would be an excellent candidate for re-barreling a shot out .219 Zipper.
Since its a Winchester round maybe we should just buy one of their beasts that was chambered in 225. That way if we don't like it could just chuck it in the garbage can because, after all, it's a Winchester and Savage rules!

Here's an overpriced beauty:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/800554505
I have a 99 re barreled to 219 Zipper. It has a heaver barrel and shoots quite well. Unfortunately it us a little heavy for all day carry.
Steve
Well I just got back from hunting No luck at all
But I do have an 1899A that was sleeved for 225, brought it at an auction with 5 pkts of 225 ammo
years ago I discussed this on the forum but everybody was horrified
I have never attempted to shoot it but one day will
I'd like to know how that works kiwi. Thanks for posting.
Originally Posted by kiwi
Well I just got back from hunting No luck at all
But I do have an 1899A that was sleeved for 225, brought it at an auction with 5 pkts of 225 ammo
years ago I discussed this on the forum but everybody was horrified
I have never attempted to shoot it but one day will


Yeah, that is interesting as I've always heard sleeving hi power cartridge barrels was not a safe thing to do. Not being critical here, just interested in knowing more.
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