Lyman No 21 SA - 12/19/19
Recently acquired a Lyman No 21 to add to my sight collection. It was not complete but had most of the major parts. In the same box of sight parts I found a partial Lyman No 33 for a Krag, it uses the same pointer assembly as the No 21 and that was present, the aperture piece was missing so I was going to just part it out. I realized I had a complete elevation arm assembly, which I originally bought for parts, that was for a Lyman No 34, it's the micrometer windage adjustable version of the No 33 so I could make a complete No 34 using that and I have a Krag (I'm now looking for a spare left side plate for a Krag so I can mount the No 34). Completing two sights made this much more of a project than originally intended.
The catalogs mention that these sights do not need to be tightened, the small ridge on the underside of the pointer snaps into the grooves in the sight and will hold it in place (not very secure though). The pointer is slotted for fine adjustment but is only held in place by the small screw with just one full thread engaged in the thin spring. I used larger screws than the original, but they were still almost to small to work with - #1-64's, originals appear to be fractional, 1/16", and with only a couple threads were impossible to measure for thread pitch.
The lever is held in place by two set screws the fit indentations on the threaded sleeve, this one was damaged from being turned to far with the set screws cutting through the indentations. There is a missing short pin that goes in the rear of the lever to limit how far it can turn, that may be the reason.
done except for the pin in the lever.
The No 38 with micrometer windage adjustment was patented July 25, 1899 according to 'Old Gunsights' but it is still not listed in the 1902 catalog so there may never have been a version of it made for the 1899's since later listings do not have the 1899's listed. CORRECTION found the patent, it is for a windage version WRONG ->The patent may not have applied to the No 38 directly.
PS to others posting pictures, there are 7 pictures posted here and previously the maximum in a single post was 6, I found you can now have 10.
The catalogs mention that these sights do not need to be tightened, the small ridge on the underside of the pointer snaps into the grooves in the sight and will hold it in place (not very secure though). The pointer is slotted for fine adjustment but is only held in place by the small screw with just one full thread engaged in the thin spring. I used larger screws than the original, but they were still almost to small to work with - #1-64's, originals appear to be fractional, 1/16", and with only a couple threads were impossible to measure for thread pitch.
The lever is held in place by two set screws the fit indentations on the threaded sleeve, this one was damaged from being turned to far with the set screws cutting through the indentations. There is a missing short pin that goes in the rear of the lever to limit how far it can turn, that may be the reason.
done except for the pin in the lever.
The No 38 with micrometer windage adjustment was patented July 25, 1899 according to 'Old Gunsights' but it is still not listed in the 1902 catalog so there may never have been a version of it made for the 1899's since later listings do not have the 1899's listed. CORRECTION found the patent, it is for a windage version WRONG ->The patent may not have applied to the No 38 directly.
PS to others posting pictures, there are 7 pictures posted here and previously the maximum in a single post was 6, I found you can now have 10.