Hi I bought some new cases for my 50-70. problem is that the bullets sized to .512 can be pushed in the cases by hand and pulled out. I have to put a heavy crimp on them but still feel that I am not getting a good powder burn like i do in the cases I made from 348 winchester cases. I have RCBS dies the same that I have always used. so question..has any one else had this problem. do you think the case walls are too thin.? or should I size the bullets bigger,,the bullets string in a vertical line and I some times have unburned powder in the barrel and it smokes like crazy. probly from partly burned powder .I have changed primers and powder to no avail. I bought a new Lb of a differant powder. and will try it this week. so any one that has had that problem what did you do to solve it.. Thanks Hubert/// <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Are you compressing the charge of BP, under a .060 fiber wad?
Nothing in the world wrong with a "thumbseat", or " pushfit " load, All of my reamers are set up / designed to give this feature.................and we took down a Gold medal at this years BPCR Nationals, with that system.
It's nice to leave the brass alone , after initial fireforming, it will last way longer.................and as you know, the stuff is not exactly cheap.
GTC
I am using paradox cartridge powder. and there is no room for a wad and smokeless powder..which says not to use a wad.
Don't have a clue regarding this " paradox" powder.
I guess it's paradoxical.
GTC
Crossfire, you don't suppose he meant Pyrodex do you???
I am without a clue.........
That cartridge is a barrel of monkey's worth of fun, I've never gotten any great accuracy out of the substitutes, as compared with good honest black...................
Work safe , GTC
I agree. I use Goex BP for my Sharps cartridges and find it to give best results. When I can get it, I like their "cartridge grade" BP. It compacts nicely through a 24"drop tube. Fouling isn't too bad. Accuracy pretty nice.
Swiss, Goex, Scheutzen, Wano , Elephant, Kik. I've tested 'em all. That's a broad spectrum, in both quality and price, too.
Conesieurs can argue 'til the cows come home, as to their respective merits...........................but any one of them can outshoot the substitutes.
Oh , for the days of Curtis and Harvey's. That was fine stuff.
BTW.........Goex has a " New Process" powder out,costs a mite more than the regular.....................but word is that Coonie has'nt been able to glom onto any, in weeks. Wonder if Katrina did the Goex plant in???
GTC
I am using paradox cartridge powder. and there is no room for a wad and smokeless powder..which says not to use a wad.
Was just curious "what" says not to use a wad?
Wish we'd get a follow up, from Hubert, the whole thing is still a paradox.
GTC
I know nothing about the paradox issues, but Goex survived Katrina just fine according to Bill Bagwell.
Brent
Sorry .It's pyrodex my misspell. I will have to find where it says not to use a card. to tighten my bullets I made me a sizer to reduce the first part of the case by an additional 2 thousands then run the inside sizer to flare the mouth for loading. now the bullet is really tight. I also found an article that says that the 50-70 has to have a heavy crimp for proper ignition . which I also put on. and I have been able to shoot cloverleafs at 50 yds now.pyrodex or black powder is the most accurate (over smokeless powder) . I may try triple7 as I have heard a lot about it. I also used some of the 50 cal banded? bullets. and they are super accurate with the smokeless powder I am going to do more when the time permits on them. right now I am busy getting my grandson ready for deer season, he needs some more range time..but nothing beats a pair of 12 year old 20/20 eyes, I am really hopeful for him... Hubert <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />