Please post some pix of your full sized Toyota Land Cruisers and provide some specs (model, year made, engine, mods, etc). Wanting to learn more about them with an eye towards a possible purchase.

I bought a 4runner at this dealer, but he showed me this LC. Too big for my needs and I like more economy. Giles is a cool salesman, not a snake if you want to deal there.

https://www.bobbyrahaltoyotaoflewis...ser-d631ab5f0a0e0ae77c04ba0ee1aa02ae.htm

Thanks Terryk

I’ve had this one for 20 years.

I have had two. Bought the first new in 2000 and kept it for 7 years (242k miles) and bought another new one. They are fantastic trucks... I would NEVER own another GM/Ford after having this kind of QUALITY... Don't be afraid to buy used. I'm one of the few people I know that actually drives in the woods/swamp with mine...

I have had two as well. The first was a 1997 80 series (Lexus LX450 actually). I ended up owning it for 14 years and put 165000 miles on it. I ended up lifting it slightly and installing a TRD supercharger. It averaged around 16mpg prior to the SC and about 14 mpg after. It ran great and was an awesome 4 wheeler. It was locked front and rear and there are several common mods that 80 series owners do. I sold it late last year as I bought a 2008 Landcruiser with 69k miles on it. Waaaaay more power with the 5.7l V8. Has electronic traction controls and I will be adding a rear locker as well. I have lifted it a bit and put 33" tires on it. It gets around 15-16mpg.

As mentioned, Landcruisers are built to a higher quality standard in design, materials and workmanship. They aren't perfect, nothing is, but I like them. I was happy to get the '08 for $34k, which is probably a little high but you can't take it with you.

They are worth it if you like that sort of vehicle.

So how far back do you need to go to lose the high tech and get a "no frills" model?

Tominboise: Thanks for the input.

It depends on the definition of high tech. If an automatic tranny is high tech, then you have to go back to the 60 series. If IFS is high tech and straight axles aren't, then back to the 80 series. The 100 series introduced the first of the electronic traction aids (ATRAC), but the 80 series used electric lockers on the front and rear axles and the t case, so it depends on what your comfort level with technology is.

The problem with the older stuff is that they are getting pretty tired and things like door latches, window regulators, HVAC control systems are wearing out and getting hard to find replacement parts any more. Or they have been restored and are worth $45k or more.

Thanks for that run-down of developments. By 'high tech" I mean all the slew of "avoidance" crutches, rear cameras, interactive screens - all that symbolizes the present level of technology - all waiting to break. Its a mix of reliable versus too tired and ready to break. Thanks again.

Mine has a high roof painted white and foot well vents in lieu of A/C. It’s got a big steering wheel instead of a power steering pump. I don’t regret it’s power brakes. They’ve been a reliable convenience.

I had an early 70’s FJ55 when I was 14. Got it for $200 from a guy my dad worked with. It was fun driving around the farm and back roads even with a “3 on the tree” transmission. Boy, I wish I had kept it. Good luck in your quest. They are cool looking vehicles. Dave

Does anyone have a quality reference book(s) for all models of Land Cruisers and their history that they would be willing to part with? If so, please send a PM.

http://m.carcomplaints.com/Toyota/Land_Cruiser/

I've had a few 'Cruisers, mostly tray backs. Not sure on the US models but I've had an 82 mod 60 series diesel wagon, two 75 series utes (86 and 98 mods) and a 2016 V8 diesel model. All were great vehicles. They're the most popular four wheel drives in hard use applications here in Aus!

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Was that picture taken in Eagle River AK?

edit. (Never mind, I looked on Google maps and the place I was thinking about has a mural on the side of the building.)

Kenster: Good looking rig. Can you provide some details?

No,just one I saw parked one time. Thought it was a good looking rig. I had a couple of them around same year, one stock,and one with an Olds v-8 and chevy truck 4-speed. Nothing like the one pictured! That thing is a show piece!

I have 105 series Cruiser which I don't think was released in the USA. It's the live axle version of the 100 series. It's essentially a re-skinned 80 series with a wider track and roomier body. Mine is a 2001 Standard model (known here as the poverty pack). It's a no frills live axle version designed for mining and other commercial operators that need a tough, reliable 4WD wagon. It's fitted with barn doors at the rear, vinyl seats and floor coverings, part time 4WD, manual transmission, FWH and wind up windows. Mine had the 1HZ diesel which is still used in other countries that don't have strict emission laws. It's a good reliable motor but is low on power. It's a good bush motor though but getting to your destination can be a grind. The manual gearbox in that model was a derivative of one used in the Supra and some Hilux models. It has great shift qualities but has drawbacks for heavy duty applications.

I looked at newer models but they were becoming too sophisticated for a vehicle designed for bush work and had other drawbacks. The old girl was getting a little long in the tooth but I decided to keep her and give her a makeover. I decided to ditch the original 1HZ and gearbox and install another Toyota diesel, the 1HD-FTE and the heavier gearbox from the commercial series (HDJ79). Before it went in I had the injectors replaced, head overhauled, water pump and timing belt replaced. The factory turbo was fitted with a billet compressor wheel and the turbo housing and exhaust manifold were ceramic coated. A H/D clutch kit fitted as well as a top mounted intercooler, Provent can, 3" exhaust, extra fuel filtration and various intake mods. It was a big job but it was mostly a factory parts swap with all the reliability, longevity and availability of factory parts.

The result is a live axle Cruiser that has more power and better fuel economy. It returns around 11 ltrs per 100km. It also has the usual accessories like lift kit, bullbar, winch, cargo barrier and roof rack. This will do me for the next 10 years.

JFE: Thanks for your input. I'd be interested in seeing pix if you can share.

Ezy: Educate me. What is a tray back?

Have a completely stock 1978 version. Has some body corrosion, stock throughout, and mechanically sound. Use it for spots where the crew cab 350 Ford long bed won't fit. Looks like Kingston's but is white.

If you’re serious about cruisers, check out IH8Mud.com.

IH8MUD is THE source for info on all models of cruisers, from specs to modifications to maintenance. Great community of folks.

We have a 1995 Series 80 and couldn’t be happier with the vehicle.

Did a lot of research before choosing a Series 80. Serious expedition worthy 4x4 with AC and leather seats that will go absolutely anywhere. Purchased used with 170,000 miles and every expectation of spending several thousand on preventative maintenance and aftermarket upgrades like winch, bumper, suspension. Easy to work on and the mudders have info on just about every conceivable problem you could encounter.

Definitely plan to keep the 80 until I croak.

Ezy: Educate me. What is a tray back?


Tray back is basically a Land Cruiser cab with a truck bed on the back. Ubiquitous in Australia and Africa.

Thanks cowboyjack.

Anyone wanna buy some parts?
I know a guy with all sorts of stuff for pre 74 FJ40

I got a Land Rover Discovery, series 2. Does that count? It seems about half the size of my crew cab dually and it only cost nine fifty. Had to tape up the rear sunroof and take out the headliner. Shed the running boards to lessen the uptown soccer mom look and increase the ground clearance.

It’s surprisingly capable off road...and it’s got a cattle guard so I can run into stuff if I feel like it.

The 4.0 V8 seems to have way more power than advertised, and for what I got in it who cares about fuel mileage.

I’ve considered taking a sawsall and grinders to it and chopping the roof off. Maybe some day I’ll get around to that.

My SIL has a 1974 FJ40 and is in need of some parts, a stock steering wheel comes to mind. Please PM me their contact information and I will have him contact them.

Ed

Lets you do this sort of thing.

JSTUART:
Thanks for those contributions.

I hope this doesn't hijack the thread...but what do you guys think about the Lexus 570? I've got a line on a 2010 for $20K. I can't believe I'd ever buy a Lexus...but is it really the same as the LandCruiser? Anything I should be aware of other than the mocking I will likely receive?

I’ve had 4, if you count the last FJ Cruiser. I’ll buy an 80 series soon. Two 40s, a 60, and the FJ Cruiser. Wish i still had all of them. Favorite? Hard to say. 40s were most fun. 60 had the most room. 2007 FJ was a wolf in sheep’s clothing....was very good on and off road. Would take another in a second. Can’t beat LCs.

I have had three. A 40, 60, and 62. Should have kept the 60 and spent the money to refurbish it when it died.

A word of caution on early Cruisers, check for rust if you live where it is a problem or the car comes from someplace where it is a problem. The worst ruster I had was the FJ62. Just horrible. The best was the FJ40. Fenders on the 60 and 62 went first.

I have spent the past thirty some years in Toyota 4x4, mostly cruisers with a few Hilux. In my opinion the last of the turbo six (as pictured) is the best of the lot, but the model I would give someone else's right arm for is the Landcruiser BJ74. This being a MWB with a 13bt motor.

I currently drive a current model 2.8 SR5 Hilux dual cab (would still rather a BJ74).

Just bought a ‘95 triple-locked FZJ80 last night. Number 5. Hope I keep this one and build on it until I can’t see to drive in my depends. Canada and other places always had more varieties than the US market, but I’ve gotten to drive some nice ones on at least 3 continents and know where a few BJ 40s and 45s hang out if I ever get to go get them.

Used to own a '92 LandCruiser that was a dog with that anemic 6-cylinder. Also felt mushy with the tall balloon tires.

Those earlier FJ80s, before the updated engine, were still trying to use the same 2f line of engine on heavier and heavier vehicles, and the HP couldn’t keep up. They still had torque, just not fast.

Good rig - has more amenities inside and a hydraulic suspension system that can raise or lower the vehicle, which can be advantageous. No lift kit needed. Otherwise, the same 5.7 liter V8, etc.

Spend some time on IH8MUD.com 200 series forum and educate your self.

This is the starting out package:



1995 FZJ80 Triple locked, bone stock.

Just put 33s on it today and waiting on a 2.5” OME.
Other stuff is just hidden maintenance/restore stuff, like hoses, belts, sensors, and removing 3rd row. More pics later.

What’s triple locked mean?

Front diff., Rear diff, TC?

Center, front, and rear. Most center difs on other vehicles are always open these days. Let’s front/rear drives turn at different speeds for turning radius of each, on pavement, or locks them for slow speed crawl....all-time 4wd systems. Manual locking hubs is the only way to make it 2wd. Front and tears control open/locked on separate wheels... but you probably knew that one.

I have a 1994 80 series with lockers and it is by far the most capable vehicle I have ever owned. I have an OME lift, ARB bull bar and 35" tires on it. Once the lockers are engaged, just point it in a direction and it goes there. It has actually surprised me a time or two just how capable it really is. Mine has over 260K on it and while it is not perfect, it just keeps running. I would not hesitate to buy another one if for some reason I ever needed to.