Going on a cow elk hunt during 1st season, wondering if size is the best indicator of age in the field? Any other methods? Prefer a younger cow than an old toughy
Interesting question.
Never had a cow elk to tuff to eat.
Most will pick out a bigger one to have more meat.
Your still going to want to get the 1/4-ers hanging as soon as you can. And hang the meat for about a week makes for some good eating!
If you see a herd strung out and moving, don't shoot the 1st one. She's lead cow and she got the job by being the meanest, raunchiest old bitch in the herd. There's no guarantee that she'll be tough or that any other one will be better, but you'd do well to play the odds.
Some years ago, I shot a really big cow. I had it at a processor's and by his scale, the quarters totalled 330lb., skinned. That's one huge cow. She was pretty good eating, too. In fact, my partner shot a running calf a few days later and it turned out to be tougher than this cow. It was pretty stressed, though, after being chased by some other hunters.
My wife shot a lead cow a few years ago. A biologist buddy aged her at 8-9 years old based on her teeth. She was a big old girl and was good to eat.
I'd shoot the biggest one you see.
I'd shoot the biggest one you see.
best advise on cows- period
-if she looks healthy-make a clean kill shot - the more meat the better!
Last year on my brothers cow hunt, there was one bitch and dwarfed the others. When she would walk, her muscles clearly flexed like she was on elkroids and hitting the gym... I was going to have him shoot her, but another, smaller one cleared first and I tend to not look a gift horse in the mouth and had him put the TTSX through the shoulder of that one. She was medium sized. Not huge, not tiny but damn was she delicious!
In fact, Im taking Elk spaghetti to work today!
We have had several elk aged by biologists at check stations...One I remember especially..I had a big cow from a Nov. hunt..when the Game and Fish aged her they said she was at least 8 years old..I ask if there was a more accurate way to tell the age, they said yes, but we have to slit the jaw to get to the very back teeth...do you mind..Heck no..they found this old girl was 20 plus years old..she was as good an elk as we have ever eaten, and we have been at it for more than 40 years...
Great photo! That's a couple of happy hunters!
20 year old elk? Wow - I didn't know they could live that long.
I wack a cow each year in addition to my bull.
And try and shoot a young cow,
the method that has worked for me is
don't shoot the large sized (grandma cows) and don't shoot the small sized (young of the year)Pick out a middle sized.
A little less meat but a 2yr old cow will
always melt in your mouth.
you'll know you've done it right when the ivories are still hollow, like a spike bull.
So my opening question was based on previous info I was told. This will be my first elk hunt as an adult and if you all are saying any age cow is good eating then I trust you guys. Any one ever have a tough or "not so good" elk? And also is there any legal elk that you would avoid taking? Why?
I've never been one to pass up a "legal elk". Oh I've shot my fair share of cows, spikes and raghorns along with some mighty nice mature bulls but passing on any elk hoping for a better one usually meant an unpunched tag for me. JMO
If its your first elk hunt, shoot the first cow you see
I do plan on taking the first cow I see. The question is more so geared towards a situation where several elk would be present. If there was any method to selecting a good cow other than taking the first elk that presented a good shot opportunity. I have always heard/read that younger animals tend to be more tender, didn't know if there was any truth to that or not.
If there are several, take a larger/closer/ best-shot cow.
If you have ever seen a herd of elk turn inside-out and vanish with out a shot. You would understand there are ways to over think this.
Something standing broadside in the open would look even better quartered with a tag!
It's my bet that your going to have a lot of fun, tag your cow, and remember the hunt at every meal. Words like 'fantastic' will come to mind!
Track-soup is a choice many hunters made for themselves.
I'd buy Eillen Clarke's Slice of the Wild to understand how to handle your elk once it is down. Proper care of elk meat is more important than which elk you shoot.
I do plan on taking the first cow I see. The question is more so geared towards a situation where several elk would be present. If there was any method to selecting a good cow other than taking the first elk that presented a good shot opportunity. I have always heard/read that younger animals tend to be more tender, didn't know if there was any truth to that or not.
In any cow hunt, the best cow is the one that
A. Falls closest to the road.
B. Gives you the first/best shot.
Simply put, dont over think it. If a cow gives you a good shot, kill her. Dont sit there and try to pick out the best tenderloins, kill one and then enjoy the tenderloins.
I have a pretty good grasp on caring for meat once harvested. Thanks for the advice, can't wait till the season begins only 4 more months. I will be going to scout this coming week, new area to me so it should be an adventure.
October cow hunts are a TON of fun. My little brother had one last year and on October 8th he brought home his cow, and I brought home a fiance.... Whom I asked to marry me 40 yards from said elk
I have shot the 1st cow, the last cow and cows in between.Can't say I could distinguish the difference,but if I can,I'll pick a smaller one.I am the only one here that eats it so a medium sized 1 yr old cow will last me a year.
If you are close to a road, shoot the biggest one. If you are far from a road, shoot the smallest one
If I have my choice, I like shooting the youngest ones I can find. Meat does tend to be less gamey, and like Saddle, I'm the only one eating it so getting back 100-150lbs of meat vs 300lbs of meat, means less to give away and less to possibly go bad. Just think, a big old fat cow might process out at 300 (or more)...if it is just you or you and 1 person, that is nearly a pound of elk meat, every day, for a year lol.
Mile High,
Great point in regards to packing out. Never really thought about it in the meat per day way, it is just myself and my wife with occasionally a friend or 2 joining for meals. I could see how 300lbs plus could be more than needed over a year period.
and I brought home a fiance.... Whom I asked to marry me 40 yards from said elk
I got a ?
a fiance - is a man engaged to marry.
a fiancee - is a woman engaged to marry.
Which one did you bring home??
I think I know - I hope I'm right
If you see a herd strung out and moving, don't shoot the 1st one. She's lead cow and she got the job by being the meanest, raunchiest old bitch in the herd.
I can tell you from experience that this is true! If I have any choice at all I take the third or fourth one back. I also do not like to shoot cows with calves, but with a large herd its nearly impossible to tell which calf belongs to which cow. Some have told me that they are careful as to how far from the road they are. My motto has always been, to shoot them first then worry about getting them out.
Most cow elk will end up a lot smaller than 300 lbs. Happens but not often.!
and I brought home a fiance.... Whom I asked to marry me 40 yards from said elk
I got a ?
a fiance - is a man engaged to marry.
a fiancee - is a woman engaged to marry.
Which one did you bring home??
I think I know - I hope I'm right
OTOH - maybe I'm wrong.
I do plan on taking the first cow I see. The question is more so geared towards a situation where several elk would be present. If there was any method to selecting a good cow other than taking the first elk that presented a good shot opportunity. I have always heard/read that younger animals tend to be more tender, didn't know if there was any truth to that or not.
In any cow hunt, the best cow is the one that
A. Falls closest to the road.
B. Gives you the first/best shot.
Simply put, dont over think it. If a cow gives you a good shot, kill her. Dont sit there and try to pick out the best tenderloins, kill one and then enjoy the tenderloins.
This is good advice. I did shoot the biggest elk in a group of about 300 once, she was over 20 years old and was like eating cardboard. Still, you are probably safe to pick a lone cow regardless of size, there can't be that many old, cardboard cows out there...
Im Gonna Chime in I try to look for a muscular cow That usually means younger and healthier but not always smaller check your or anyone elses game cam pics and you will be able to tell health over age boney elk have more tuff meat well built elk tenderer meat in my experience
I try not to shoot the lead cow---not because she'll be tough eating but because she has the smarts/experience to get the group thru the winter. I try for a dry cow, at least one that doesn't have a calf at her side. Bob
and I brought home a fiance.... Whom I asked to marry me 40 yards from said elk
I got a ?
a fiance - is a man engaged to marry.
a fiancee - is a woman engaged to marry.
Which one did you bring home??
I think I know - I hope I'm right
I did not know that.
the one with DD's, er I mean two e's.
I did not know that.
the one with DD's, er I mean two e's.
Wheuu
C O N G R A T S!!