I have always wanted a single shot in 45/70 since watching Quigley down under. A buddy has a 1885 BPCR in 45/70 I like the look of that gun with the octagon to smooth barrel. This would be more of a fun range toy than a dedicated hunting rifle. Anyone have experience with this rifle and how it compares to the standard 1885?

The Browning BPCR is a good rifle. It was made in Japan by Miroku. If you are referring to an original Winchester 1885 as a comparison, the internal workings are much different. The Miroku version is much more complicated. If you are looking to compare it to other Miroku models, there are differences in stocks, sights, and barrels. The BPCR came with a Badger barrel and most folks consider them to be quite accurate. I have a Winchester 1885 Traditional Hunter in 38-55 and had the opportunity recently to shoot a friends Browning 1885 BPCR in 40-65. Both are very nice rifles in my humble opinion. I think you will be happy with the BPCR if you decide to get it. Of course you will need a Sharps to go Full Quigley.

Thanks for the response, I have been looking at the different sharps replicas and some are cheaper than I'm seeing the few BPCR rifles on gunbroker. Would the badger barrel be worth the extra cost in your opinion over say the standard 1885 browning?

Badger or not, I've never had a Browning 1885 that didn't shoot lights out with the right load.

I would say the BPCR would be worth it if you are looking for the best accuracy and plan on shooting it more from the bench or from crossed sticks. If you plan on doing a lot of offhand shooting or carrying the rifle for long distances like hunting, a lighter rifle may be a better choice. I have no experience with the sharps replicas, but if I was in the market I would be looking for a Shiloh or a C sharps. I know it's easier said than done, but it would be nice if you could handle and shoot them before making a decision. Also as Biebs points out, any barrel can shoot well and I wouldn't get hung up on barrel maker.

If you want to be "Quigley" you need an 1874 sharps. As far as the difference between Browning 1885 replicas, one is that early ones were made without a receiver tang on which to mount a sight

I'll agree that a Brownchester Miroku is a sweet rifle. I have a couple which are very accurate (but no .45-70's, can't speak to that). In fact I would personally rate them a bit higher than the venerable Ruger #1 (gasp), and I truly love the Ruger. Miroku's just have a smoother action and possess a certain "solid feel" that the Ruger lacks, and the adjustable triggers on the later ones I have are very nice (but I recognize that other's experience in that regard isn't the same).

What I don't like about the Miroku's is the complexity of their innards - quite different from the simplicity of the original Winchester 1885. A small detail, indeed. I also judge the coil spring driven hammers to not be as "snappy" as the original flat mainspring M1885 also. Again a small detail.

To the OP: there's a lot of cool/neat falling block single shot .45-70's out there, all of which have good and less good points, but all are quite capable of delivering good fun. Also, don't ignore vintage originals, especially if they've been re-barreled in modern times alleviating them of "collector value". Some bargains priced comparably to "modern" used versions can be had in that regard.

I don't know what price the Browning is going for. I do know that if you look it should be pretty easy to pick up a Shiloh or C Sharps 45-70 for $1800-2200. I have owned the Browning BPCR in the past and I have nothing bad to say about it, but there is just something about the Shiloh 1874 that just feels right. If you like the center hammer and want an 1885, C Sharps makes a great one. If the price is anywhere close, I would go with the Big Timber guns any day.

I bought a .45/70 Browning B78 in 1976 and have put many pounds of deer and elk in the freezer. 99% of the bullets through it was lubed cast or paper patch and it would average an inch and a half. It weighed close to 10 pounds and got too heavy for me to lug around, so I sold it about 5 years ago. I miss it! I'd say buy your friend's 1885 and enjoy!

I am a left handed shooter that is one reason the 1885 browning peak my curiosity. Would the hammer on a 1874 hinder a left handed shooter. The last time i picked up a sharps was probably 20 years ago and the one I handled was a 22 hornet. Thanks.

Doesn't to me. The hammer is quite pronounce and is easily reachable from the left.

I really like the 1885s, both low wall and high wall. Mine have all been Miroku-made and have been accurate, well-built rifles. Once you have one, it will be very difficult to part with.

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Seriously though, as a left-handed shooter too, I do have a Browning 1885 chambered in a smaller .44 Magnum with a similar round to octagon barrel like the BPCR that I like a lot (pictured below with my gunsmith). I shot a deer with it a month ago during Mississippi's primitive season & it worked great. I also have a much larger Winchester 1885 Safari Octagon in .375 H&H and a Traditional Hunter in .405 Winchester. All of these are excellent rifles that I really enjoy shooting a lot.

I have one of those .44s, not scoped, and it’s a favorite. Needs some deer blood on it, but I’m probably through for the year, and definitely ain’t shooting another doe, all that’s left now for conventional firearms.

They are very nice rifles, and about all I want to carry these days. The High Walls are pretty heavy.

Cool, I have one in 223. Very accurate and real purrty. Had one in 6.5x55, yep sold it...... 🐾👣🐾👣🇨🇦

Had one in 300 WSM that I 110% regret selling. Way cool rifle.

Seriously though, as a left-handed shooter too, I do have a Browning 1885 chambered in a smaller .44 Magnum with a similar round to octagon barrel like the BPCR that I like a lot (pictured below with my gunsmith). I shot a deer with it a month ago during Mississippi's primitive season & it worked great. I also have a much larger Winchester 1885 Safari Octagon in .375 H&H and a Traditional Hunter in .405 Winchester. All of these are excellent rifles that I really enjoy shooting a lot.

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That's a nice little rig! What's the weight?

My Winchester 1885 is a 22 hornet, an accurate and fun gun.

3,622 grams which puts it 7 grams shy of 8# with the scope. I started off shooting a Hornady 225gr LEVERevolution but felt I got better accuracy with a lighter Remington 180gr UMC JSP. The last deer I shot with it required zero tracking as I shot it through the heart at 50 meters.

My Ruger No. 1 in 303 British also has a fixed 6x (a Leupold) & weighs 3,639 grams. So this little Browning 1885 is 17 grams lighter than my #1A while having a slightly longer barrel. Of course shooting an older style Malcolm scope is a bit like looking through a straw with a narrow field of view but where I hunt, it's kind of a fun rifle to take out during primitive season. It's slender & feels small compared to my big Winchester 1885's with their 28" octagon barrels.

I have the same 1885 Low Wall in 44 mag and took a mulie doe with it last month. It's a handy little rifle and mine will put heavy Hawk spitzers into 3 inches at 100 yards with the iron sights consistently, more than adequate for the situations I would use this rifle in.

Not all Browning 1885 models had an upper tang. Obviously this is an important feature if you want to fit a tang sight.