I was wondering what Canadians think about Trudeau in general, and his latest position on tariffs? Any thoughts

I dislike his policies, I dislike his persona, and I dislike his position on most issues. However, I tend to agree that the suggestion of tariffs by the US is insulting. Just as the imposition of restrictions on the sale of rifle barrels to Canadians or Americans living in Canada is insulting. I also think the imposition of tariffs on US goods by Canada to be wrong. Tariffs mostly affect the consumer at the lowest levels of income while, in many instances, just providing another product for sale. The tariff actually becomes a retail product and is marked up just as if it was a real product and becomes a profitable item at the cost to the consumer. To me, if the US wants to tax aluminum, the aluminum should simply be sold elsewhere so the US market doesn't have to deal with the stuff. Same with steel, oil, water, hydro-electric power, etc. In truth, Canada needs to quit selling raw materials abroad anyway. GD

How do you feel about the 270% tariff on dairy and other agricultural products placed on the U.S.? Just wondering.

All I can say is that he better think twice about slapping a tariff on fake eyebrow adhesive. He NEEDS it.

Whata clown ...... Kaptain Kangaroo at the helm.

I have to confess to having no knowledge of this. I do know, if I buy too much dairy product, I do get charged duty but it is no 270%. I think it's more like 30%. This is, of course, at the retail level. What may exist at farm level (which may be intended to couteract subsidies) I honestly cannot say. I believe in free enterprise which means with out taxes or subsidies. In some cases, a country will argue that low taxes are essentially subsidies. I disagree with this. There can be no expectation that every one must tax at the same rate. GD

+1

I see the concept of free trade as a fair way to approach trade in general. However, self defense products are necessarily made and should be made in country and the raw material should be recovered in country as well where possible. Steel manufacturing is one that stands out. A nation cannot depend on anyone else to deliver in time of war. Even with Canada being a strong friend, something could befall Canada that changed the supply.

Another issue messing up free trade is fair wages and conditions are not always met by each country. That is not an issue with Canada, but it is in dictatorship countries like North Korea. Wages need not be the same, but reasonably set so the workers can thrive. I realize that markets determine price, but when the CEO in the US makes hundreds or thousands of times higher earnings than the worker bee, that is what stirs revolutions.

Canada is a rich and beautiful country with good people from my view. I am glad that they are our friend and neighbor and hope they feel the same. I've met and worked with many Canadians that I would call friends.

Tariffs are a good tool to level out the differences from country to country, if used justly. "Justly" being the key word there.

I was wondering about what the Canadian perception of Trudeau is as a leader.

With the press in the US what it is, it is tough to access the man from afar.

Well, the liberals (small "l") and the women love him, though not as much as when he was elected, 'cause the warts are starting to become all too obvious. Like his father, he's not nearly as popular in the west as he is back east.

I guessed the women would like the little boy look and demeanor. That kinda sums up how I saw him.

Somebody already said it. Canada's white obama. Hope he goes away quicker for you than obama did for us.

According to Trump he is, ‘Very Weak And Dishonest’

I am a western Canadian Conservative and never voted for either Trudeau. Hopefully we will replace him with a strong Conservative. Someone even better at standing up to Trump. We are your friend and allie. Fought side by side with America and will do it again. Don't allow him to jeopardize this. You asked for my opinion.
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I lived in Salmon Arm BC back in 1982 when his daddy, PET gave everyone the 1 finger salute off the back of a train he was traveling on.

Boy, talk about upsetting people. Everyone in town was ready to have a lynching party.

I'm glad to hear that our Canadian friends are aware their government has restrictions in place to frustrate the free flow of business. I was concerned that people in Canada and other trading partners didn't really know their countries have been doing that. It is not very well covered on our partisan divisive news. Our news tries to convey that Trump has no justification at all to try and level the playing field,

IMHO I've been to Canada several times and I don't believe that politicians could very easily destroy centuries of friendship and interaction.

A few speed bumps aside, Canada, and the USA have been the best of neibours for over a hundred years. Both need God's blessings.

Yes, a 270% tariff is bullchitt and its time Canada quits propping up this industry.
Trudeau is a follower of his party of fools, rainbow lovin, turbin wearin, gun hatin, and in absolute love with Muzzie scum.

Canadian Tariffs



Table linen???

Diesel;
Good evening to you sir, I trust this finds you well and you had an acceptable weekend.

Overall, I would suggest that the "average" Canadian - if there is such a beast, is increasingly less and less enchanted with Mr. Dressup as far as his ability to lead anything.

As others have noted, his father wasn't well loved out west here and we're not his son's biggest fan base either.

That said, as my cyber friend greydog noted, it's not in our best interest as a country to export any raw goods and we need to do less of it - in my opinion.

The tariffs - say on dairy or poultry for instance - are in place theoretically to protect Canadian producers from being put out of business by foreign producers - US or otherwise - who can produce the same product for less because of a number of circumstances.

Sticking with dairy for instance - our farmer will have to pay something like $4.32 for a US gallon of diesel for his tractor - perhaps a bit less if it's marked fuel, but surely substantially more than the US counterpart. The Canadian dairy will have to truck the milk further to a smaller market - remember there's only 34 million of us in a greater landmass than the lower 48 - and will have to pay more for feed and everything else because of increased transportation costs.

The farmer can only produce so much here too - they've got a quota system in place - and the idea there is again to regulate the industry in order to stabilize supply - and in some ways that works after a fashion.

One thing we see up here still is family owned operations still exist, whereas when I've traveled in Washington and Oregon, there were a lot of "company" owned operations. Poultry was that way too from what I could glean.

In another for instance, something like 85% of western Canadian beef goes south of the medicine line - but it only accounts for less than 4% of your consumption.

Anyway all that to say there's more to the situation than meets the eye and public name calling on either side by it's leaders won't help the folks at the bottom and middle income brackets get cheaper food or more stable employment over the long term.

Hopefully that made a wee bit of sense and was useful for someone out there. All the best to you as we head into summer.

Dwayne

I visited for quite a while with a Canadian "extension agent" last year.

He mentioned that the combination farmer/rancher was in decline in Canada. He said it used to be very common for producers to be diversified into beef and grains.


Now he said the numbers of diversified producers is quite a bit less. He blamed the BSE wreck.




Dwayne and Greydog, why is it that Canada should stop exporting raw materials? In your opinions?

Concentrate more on finished goods?

Jim;
Top of the morning to you sir, I hope the rains have come to your area in sufficient measure to get the crop going okay.

The BSE wreck took out a lot of BC ranchers - exactly how many I can't say Jim - but a lot of the smaller ones are gone now and in the ensuing mess the government tightened up on regulations making it almost impossible for smaller farms to keep say half a dozen beef and sell them locally for slaughter anymore. My sister used to do that and can't any longer for instance.

If we can produce and export finished goods Jim, then the labor takes place at home.

The whole pipeline mess between BC and Alberta is an extension of that too in many ways as there used to be 4 or 5 bigger refineries in the Vancouver area, now there's one. When someone else is refining that oil and selling it back to us, we lose all that employment and then end up paying the aforementioned $4.32 or so for a gallon of diesel.

The math gets pretty ugly when you're paying that for fuel and everything you touch gets moved by truck, does it not Jim? How much of an effect would another dollar per gallon of diesel have on your operation Jim, or Sam's or any other family sized operation?

Anyway, again if we can figure out a way to continue to work together as good neighbors - the way its been for the past 150 plus years - I'd suggest the mutual benefits would outweigh the negatives. As always though, time will tell if the collective "we" are able to do so. I for one fervently hope so.

All the best to you and yours as we head into summer Jim.

Dwayne

BC30cal,

I get the part for doing finished goods at home to capture the labor aspect and that makes sense.

For way too long the US has favored big corporations over the independent and family businesses. Those closest to the land and their communities have been pushed out for the sake of bigger is better mentality. Maybe big corporations are more efficient and produce cheaper priced goods but in my view at the expense of small towns in both countries and their quality of life. Wal-Mart as a retailer is a prime example of big pushing out the mom and pop stores in so many small towns across the entire country. Yes it is cheaper goods, but look at the consequences in community breakdown. But I digress.

When it comes to trading raw materials, there are probably materials we have more of and materials Canada has more of that can be traded back and forth by balancing It is all very complicated and I am surely not informed enough to even know what, if anything, is out of whack. All in all and as simple as I can see it is trade should be as balanced as possible for the good of both nations.

I can see us as a nation favoring our friends in any unbalance, but it would be better if all nations traded evenly. That is a pipe dream for sure.

Generally speaking, I feel that no country should be exporting raw materials and this especially applies to Canada. There was, perhaps, some reason for this trade when Canada lacked the population and infrastructure and much of the early developement was paid for by the export of raw materials and the developement of industry by foriegn (usually American) corporations. Today, we are capable of refining any of the raw materials we export. There is absolutely no reason, for instance, for Canada to allow the export of raw logs while importing paper and construction materials. There are so many aspects to trade inequalities that it is unlikely that anyone will ever address them all. Subsidization of industries via tax breaks, forgiveable loans, market manipulation and outright gifts, occurs on both sides of the border. In the end, my concern is only what the effect might be on the end user because that is me. GD

Trade goes back to the day's of Marco Polo. Each country should get a "fair shake in the trades."

Possibly one of our American friends can answer a question for me. My understanding is that your dairy farmers over produce milk to the extent that they end up dumping millions of gallons each year. is this correct?

Jim

Your example is one that fits the keep raw materials and develop the labor approach. That works for a lot of stuff, but what if whatever you are making needs a little of this and a little of that to complete the product and you don't have any domestically? Take lithium for rechargeable batteries. If the country has no lithium, do you abandon the technology or trade for it?

Some countries have little in natural resources but have smart and industrious labor that is added value. The US and Canada are blessed with many natural resources and it has made both countries wealthy along with the hard work of the people. Not all are so fortunate and find other ways to compensate. Trade gets complicated with the subsidizations and trickery and we can agree that hurts us all.

Canada had a perfectly good, maybe great, PM in Stephen Harper. He is not flashy, but is still a good orator. He is a rather shy intellectual economist who was able to win a minority government for the Conservatives back when the corrupt Liberals (dubbed at the time the Libranos) thought that their man, Paul Martin, was a shoo in. IIRC he won two more minority governments and then finally in 2011, a majority government. Unlike a lot of political leaders, he is not from a wealthy family. He has spent his life as a policy wonk. He loves hockey (he has written a book) and music. He has been known to spot a piano, sit down and competently play an impromptu song.

Canada is a large diverse country. The second largest province is Quebec which thinks it is a nation within a nation. This notion combined with the other differences makes Canada virtually ungovernable. As a conservative man, Harper wished he could have done more on many topics, but that was always balanced against keeping his party in power. Compromises were necessary. He won four consecutive elections and managed minority governments for longer than anyone else in the history of Canada.

Having defeated a series of Liberal leaders and the NDP's Jack Layton, Harper had shown some staying power. The Liberals recruited Trudeau who ran as a MP. He won election and I think put him right into the Liberal shadow cabinet. Too soon, they needed another leader and the Liberals pushed Justin forward in the hopes there would be some name recognition. He won the leadership, but did not distinguish himself as the leader of the opposition.

By the time of the 2015 election, the left leaning media had cast Harper as a mean spirited man that was too hard on the social issues and the green movement, calling him a climate change denier. Central and Eastern Canada began to believe this, especially the millenials. The main challenger was perceived to be the NDP, who are pretty much socialists now. The Conservatives effectively campaigned against their leader and destroyed his chance for the NDP to win. The Liberals were now the contenders and their campaign slogan was that Justin was real change. The Conservatives campaigned that Justin "Just not Ready".

About August or September, I felt the Harper campaign manager should have been fired. The transition from fighting the NDP to the Liberals was not smooth enough and the communication was not clear to the average person. Unbelievably a lot of people felt the message that he just wasn't ready was mean to Justin.

Anyways, Justin won and we have been paying the price since. 2019 can't come fast enough.

Justin Trudeau is a part time drama teacher. He is from an extremely rich family. He is a trust fund baby. His father was PM for a long time and was a mean SOB who started Canada's decline. His mother was a flakey flower child about 30 years younger than his father. Pierre dabbled in communism in his youth and Justin has said he admires China's form of government. The family are longtime friends with the Castros of Cuba. Justin's wife is an entertainer in Quebec, meaning she has zero profile in the rest of Canada. Justin is a social justice warrior and a greenie. He is advised by his brother Sascha, and a close friend who is a militant Muslim. His chief of staff is Gerald Butts who is a rampaging greenie.

Trudeau is everything you don't want in a leader. He is a poser and an empty shell who has no original thoughts of his own. He is Obama lite. Except Obama was smarter and a better orator. Without his hair, his looks and his family name, no sane person would elect Trudeau as a manure shoveler.

Hopefully we stop depriving a village of their idiot next year.

Thank you for the detailed synopsis.

I was always disappointed when the border opened after the BSE mess.


We were told down here that Canada was seriously moving ahead with packing capabilities.

Our big packers lobbied to have the border opened, hell or high water to prevent that from happening.

Hurt both country's producers.

US overproduction of dairy products could outcompete Canadian dairy products, so they put tariffs on to protect their own producers.

Greydog and AB2506 have summed up Trudeau and his government nicely.

Former PM Stephen Harper was in my opinion, one of best PM's Canada has ever had. Here is a small clip on Harper's view on the trade war; he sums it up perfectly and spoken like a true PM.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5795869384001/?#sp=show-clips

Great post........ We can thank the CBC for much of the Liberal success in the last election. It should be sold to private interests and let the people decide if it lives or dies.

I am curious about the oil refineries and why you don't have more in canada. Here it is EPA regs and such that make it almost impossible to build new ones. Trump is trying to roll back some of those regulations. Some one said something about standing up to Trump. He isn't the problem. The old politicians are the problem. Now that Obummer is gone maybe it will be Free Trade. I farmed on the border in North Dakota and saw some of the stupid agreements with Canada. We could send all the fish we raise to Canada but not one kernel of wheat. Care to guess how many fish we raise here. That's correct Zero. Ed k

I can't speak to regulations, however, in my neck of the Canadian woods majority of people do not want oil refineries. It would be political suicide. Instead, they want to adopt more of a Norweign train of thought - reduce pollinates such as oil refineries or tar sands (which is whole other topic) and invest in renewable energy.

Thanks for the perspective on Trudeau. I have wondered what western Canadians thought about him after visiting BC several times to hunt and sightsee. Met some great people in the backcountry and the small towns...
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I'm not from Canada, but Trudeau is an idiot, plain & simple.

As far as trade goes, you either have free trade or you don't; whether you do or not, in some instances, some industries will get hurt.

If you start managing it via lots if pokitical special interest controls, then you end up where we are today.

As far as I'm concerned there needs to be some level of dialog about balancing trade so everyone comes as close to net Zero as possible, taking into account that there will likely be some need for managing certain things.

When a country has a huge imbalance of trade, such as the U.S. with China, if allowed to continue, the U.S. will surely go broke.

No country can only be a consumer & make nothing..............soon "nothing" will be the value of it's currency & soon after will come massive inflation via printing money or the debtor country will cease to exist.

MM

That's essentially the NAFTA.

America runs a surplus from Canadian trade by tariffs paid by Canadians on US goods, its not one-sided despite how some make it appear. In fact, Canada is the US single biggest customer, by a good margin. If you look at the Free Trade Agreement in its entirety, its actually well balanced between Canada and the US.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ight-about-the-trade-deficit-with-canada

We had Obummer.. they have Pierre's panzy son to deal with.

its no slap to Canada... I'm sure most decent Canadians feel he is an embarrassment..
the same way any Decent American felt that Obama was an embarrassment...

there shouldn't be ANY restrictions from Canada or the USA on trade between our two countries...

and both nations need to get rid of the Muslims, etc that are infesting our two nations...

most Americans don't know that like 85 to 90% of Canada's population lives within 100 miles of the US border...

minus the 5 or so big cities..

Western Canada is like a big version of Montana..
the Prairies are a big version of North Dakota..
Ontario is a big version of Northern New York...
Quebec is well.. full of the French.. who excel at wanting to be different.
and the Maritimes are pretty much like most of Maine, but further east, with more coastline..

Good places, full of good people...

I am no fan of Trudeau or his dad but I am not sure I like people outside of the Canadian family criticizing my Prime Minister. The recent verbal attacks by President Trump will surely serve to make PM Trudeau more popular in Canada and most of the democracies of the world.. We don't have a big trade surplus with the USA and each country has some protection for certain sectors. America for example charges 350% on tobacco from Canada.

Kim is an honest guy and Trudeau is a liar? Funny world where you alienate your friends and praise the dictators. This can't end well.

With 'friends' like your liberal pussy boy PM, who needs enemies?

You also can't see the forest through the trees and are less concerned about the important stuff and more concerned about feelings.

Calling a spade a spade is proper, doesn't matter who calls it. I think your wrong in your belief that Trump calling our limp dick PM will make him more popular. The more Trudeau bends over and swallows the angrier Canadians voters will get. If we still had Harper this free trade debacle with Trump wouldn't be unfolding the way it is.

As a paid up card carrying Conservative, I can tell you Trump is turning me and plenty of others into Liberals and proud Canadians with our backs up. I spent the entire weekend listening to US news channels on my sat radio and boy is the story ever twisted down south and missing half the information needed for any sane critical thinking.

I find the campfire forum disgusting.................everyone falling all over themselves congratulating Trump for being a boor. His tweet was even all wrong, Trudeau didnt say he would not be pushed around, but that Canadians wouldn't be pushed around. I doubt any Canadian in this room will argue with Trudeau on this point. Nothing in the press release was new news. He simply said he was putting tariffs on steel imported from the US in response to the US imposing tarrifs on imported Canadian Steel. The insult was not even the tariff, but the lame national security threat as the reason. This reason was used only because otherwise it would have been illegal under the US drafted WTO rules.

Fact, Canada is the biggest purchaser and consumer of US goods. That means to most people we are your biggest customer. Thirty six states rely on Canada to take the biggest share of their production. The US is also the biggest purchaser of Canadian goods and services. The trade between the two is almost balanced with the US having sold us slightly more than we sold you last year. This would be your presidents definition of a WIN. This man makes no sense and everyone except he knows it. Your congress is in utter fear of this moron that went bankrupt 4 times. It is obvious why.

For instance, just a few months ago, the US imposed a 300% duty on Canadian aircraft in a bid to kill a sale to Delta, a few months before that it was Canadian lumber. So now the US gov is taxing every 2x4 going into new US home construction.

Yes we have a milk quota system, (kind of like the US has one for sugar) but we still purchaser billions of dollars of US dairy production. The US over produces milk because the US gov subsidizes (pays US farmers) to produce milk. Now somehow its our problem because we dont want it dumped in Canada. Dont forget the US had a trade surplus with Canada in dairy product of something like 400,000,000 last year alone. Now lets not bring up the long standing 300 percent tarif the US has on Canadian tobacco, or that the US pays billions to your farmers to grow corn.We call that a subsidy, dont know what they call it down there. No wonder the rest of the world rolls their eyes when getting lectured about tarifs when the US is so blind to their own.

Back to steel, your supreme leader imposes tarrisf on Canadian steel and aluminum under a BS rule then gets outraged when we do the same. The really funny part is Canada sells more steel to the US than anyone else, BUT we buy even more from the US than we sell to you, for our needs.So when the tarrifs start to bounce back it the US workers that will be feeling the pain too. Ditto US farmers.

I challenge everyone in this room to boycott all things made in the US, until your president finds another punching bag. As a Canadian I take it personally just the way Trump meant it. Today Trump added a threat to our economy.

I invite any American to point out exactly where we are taking advantage of you. And regardless of the anti Trudeau sentiment in here................for the record all the Canadian politicians have declared their support for our PM because its the RIGHT THING TO DO........................something no longer being done in the US.

Tangozulu.....can we exempt Nosler Partitions from the boycott?

A little reality about the Trade "deficit" from CBS news.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-trade-deficit-fact-check-trump-claim-g7-summit/

Just checked my Nosler supply and Im good.........................sorry the boycott stands.

Trudy needs to fire his tailor - his blue suit looked one size too small.

What is this "critical thinking" you speak of? USA! USA! The best country in the world..........if you've never traveled.

All jokes aside, I don't know the source, but was told the state of Wisconsin alone could supply all of Canada's dairy needs. We've all been irritated at the price of dairy compared to the US at times, but I'm also kind of supportive of Canadian dairy farmers and their family owned farms as well.

Cheers,

R

I could wish that people would stop seeing politics as "this one or that one". As a rule, politicians on both sides are corrupt, scheming, lying POS's. Some, like many in the current crop of Dems in the US, just stand out more. But Obama was a scumbag. And Bush before him was a criminal and a scumbag, and Clinton before him was a criminal and a scumbag.

I wonder what Canadians would say to Kathy O'Brien's detailed assertions that she was taken into Canada several times as a girl when Pierre was PM, and spent much time with him getting molested, raped, assaulted, along with a bunch of other girls. She gave testimony before the US Congress detailing all of it. I wish more Americans knew her story, too. It would surprise many. Most interesting is who took her over into Canada. He served as POTUS later. Strangely, no one would even address Kathy's, and others' testimony before Congress, where they named names and described events and places that they couldn't know unless they'd been there.

I wonder where that leaves Junior Trudeau? What is his "flavor"?

This Cathy O'Brien?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathy_O%27Brien_(conspiracy_theorist)

Somewhat true, which i think is part of Trump's complaint in that the milk goes to waste since it can't be profitably exported to Canada and other countries due to high tariffs.

It's the right thing for Canada and I completely understand that, but it isn't the right thing for the US so why are you good to go when you're leader does what he thinks is in the best interest of his people but encourage Americans to resist when their leader does something in their best interest?

Canada, and a lot of other U.S. allies remind me of a cousin i had one time who was always borrowing lunch money as he was broke, but had lots of nice shiny new toys. This went on for years until it finally dawned on me that the reason I couldn't afford more shiny new toys is that all my extra money was being given to him so I cut him off. He was fairly indignant about it and we didn't speak for a couple years, but it was the right thing for me to do at the time and I really didn't miss hanging out with him that much since it gave me more time to play with my new stuff.

I hate Justin & all he (personally) stands for !

Trump is a better proposition for you guys than the alternative, I'll grant you that.

However, Trump is seen (due to his own stupidity) by the rest of the world as a bombastic idiot, who shoots off his mouth with no regard to the truth.

According to this link which was posted earlier, which it seems no one chose to read, may AGAIN be the case here.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-trade-deficit-fact-check-trump-claim-g7-summit/

Bit like Justin stating, after a recent shooting, that he would bring to law, that no one would be able to buy ammunition without a license, thus making it safer for all !

You have not been able to purchase any form of ammunition, or firearm here, without your PAL (possession acquisition licence), for well over 20 years.

Canada bashing, who would have ever thought it?

So is it your thought that Canada should eliminate our protection for the dairy industry so the US producers can destroy the Canadian producers. Sorry, I have family in that line of farming and I can't support throwing them onto the welfare lines.

Jim

Hopefully Canada and the rest of the world will have someone else to deal with in a few years and we can go back to the give and take necessary for all partnerships. Looking at Trades and Services; Canada is one of the few countries in a deficit position with the USA. The original NAFTA deal had a great deal of give and take. You had patriotic smart negotiators on both sides of the border, but people who had the wisdom to see that compromise is not surrender. Some sectors in both countries were protected. American Tobacco.... Canadian Milk.... etc. President Trump seems to be asking for capitulation and focusing on just one sector..... It won't happen. Won't matter who is in power here, the vast majority of the Canadian public won't allow allow it. President Trump has a winner take all strategy. He does not believe in a Win-Win solution. In such a world you have no partners only competitors. I predict American First will end up looking very much like America Alone. The G7 has already become the G6 +1

It's hilarious to me that President Trump placed a 25% duty on Canadian Aluminum. We can sell Aluminum cheaper than you can produce it. The refineries in Quebec use cheap hydro power that make for extremely cost efficient product. Now American industry has to pay more for raw materials. This will make American finished product (like cars) more expensive and less competitive. Who wins here? I hate this. It is stupid and destructive. China and Russia must be having a good laugh! Remarkable.

Yes but the US Gov Pays American farmers to overproduce, hardly thye bastion of free traders the US is claiming to be. This is what Trump accuses everyone else but the US does. He is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts. Trump is even on record admitting he just made up the idea that Canada had a trade surplus with the US.............just Google it.

Trump criticizing Trudeau is not changing anybody's mind about Trudeau.

It's coming out this weekend that Trump had offered Trudeau a trade deal. That deal may be off the table because of the way Trudeau behaved at the news conference after the G7. Drama boy decides to go off script and embarrasses Trump on his way to negotiate with Rocket Man. I'd be pissed too.

In the house yesterday,Trudeau won't confirm one way or another whether a deal had been made or if Trump had made a concession. So something did happen and he knows he blew it.

Thanks Justin!

Someone asked about refineries. They cost a lot of money. No one wants them near their home. Government regulations. Greenies. Idiots who think there is a viable alternative to fossil fuels that is ready to go. Just shut in the oil and everything will be fine, we don't need it. So pretty much like the US. you have to remember our economy is 1/10 the size of your, spread out over a vast area. We still need pipelines to move product.

Trump criticizing Trudeau is not changing anybody's mind about Trudeau.

It's coming out this weekend that Trump had offered Trudeau a trade deal. That deal may be off the table because of the way Trudeau behaved at the news conference after the G7. Drama boy decides to go off script and embarrasses Trump on his way to negotiate with Rocket Man. I'd be pissed too.

In the house yesterday,Trudeau won't confirm one way or another whether a deal had been made or if Trump had made a concession. So something did happen and he knows he blew it.

Thanks Justin!

Someone asked about refineries. They cost a lot of money. No one wants them near their home. Government regulations. Greenies. Idiots who think there is a viable alternative to fossil fuels that is ready to go. Just shut in the oil and everything will be fine, we don't need it. So pretty much like the US. you have to remember our economy is 1/10 the size of your, spread out over a vast area. We still need pipelines to move product.

probably not the intended purpose

I don't care for much of the dialogue these days.Here goes anyway. I am a card carrying western Canadian, Conservative. Rural, Christian and very right wing and I despise our present government. Trudeau doesn't speak for me. On the flip side, any critism of Trump these days is piled on by his supporters as if no discussion is allowed.

Trudeau is a hated, embarrassing idiot. The most common comment I hear is that someone should shoot him.

As for tariffs, subsidies, lies, half truths and omissions there's enough from both sides to go around. Nothing I can do about it anyway.

As an other Western Canadian your remark is absolute nonsense. Trudeau is an embarrassment and unqualified leftie. He should just leave office, the shooting remark is disgusting and uncalled for , besides it can hurt our side- especially right now

The shooting remark is what I hear, and indicative of the level of hatred that name brings to surface. You don't like it, tough [bleep].

I just retired from farming in North Dakota 3 years ago. Whoever told you Canadians that the gov. Here pays us to overproduce is very uninformed. Government payments ended about 20 years ago. If there is a disaster such as drought or what ever you might get a little to survive on. Most of the money in our farm bills goes for the welfare programs and such. Why it's in a farm bill I will never know. Some people think it's ok to save your dairy people but hauling millions of bushels of wheat down here and killing our market is somehow ok? That's not free trade and that is Trumps point. Ed k

Denies it

don't think highly of him either, but i hope there is nothing to the allegation

I disagree with almost all of Mr Trudeau's policies. With regards to the dairy products tariffs I don't agree that one particular industry should be so protected. It obviously had special circumstances or was politically advantageous to protect it under Nafta. But I will say this: that at the time of the original nafta agreement dairy tariffs were an issue and the Canadian govt had to give up considerable to keep the tariff for dairy. President Trump and his negotiators have seized on the dairy tariffs as representing the whole trade relationship, while conveniently forgetting what Canada gave up to protect the industry and how successful the NAFTA agreement has been for both countries. President Trump and his staff are ruthless negotiators. Their attitude seems to be "whats mine is mine and whats yours is mine" rather than how can we make this work to benefit both countries.. I have no information, just news articles on which to base my opinions.

Not sure how the 270 % tarriff matches up with the 75% subsidary the american dairy farmers receive to over produce a product they dont have a market for but besides that. ....Justin is an idiot.

So...How's the fishing up on the North Seal River now? I'll be in Winnipeg on Friday and up there on Saturday. I come in peace!

America needs 2 walls one on the Mexico border ,one on the Canada border, its time we take control of the American market to help American`s.

I seem to be reading that alot of Canadians believe protecting their businesses is a good thing, but America should not do the same?

This from a kid from the prairies, grew up in Saskatchewan, spent half my life in Alaska, for the most part. Got family in Saskatchewan and Alberta, mostly..
Perception wise, Trudeau seems like a half retarded peckerwood. If he had a tragic skiing accident, I probably wouldn't feel to bad. I,d actually feel a lot worse about a robin bouncing off the windshield.
The guy is pretty much a complete POS in my book.

I didn't want to soil the campfire with a link of Justine at the pride parade in Vancouver this weekend, just take my word for it, it happened.
Never has any prime minister been so destructive to traditional Canadian culture, so embarrassing.
Now the Saudi's have asked for our ambassador to leave the country within 24hrs because Trudeau's government cant keep their mouth shut about another countries human rights. It wont be long and this pos and his band of misfits will be out of there.....I know...its an insult to misfits everywhere.

Canada hates his heart. He's an arrogant self-entitled lying Islamist. Can't wait for him to disappear

sjr;
Good afternoon to you sir, I hope all is well with you and your fine family - I bumped into your son the other day at work and as always it was a pleasant albeit brief chat we had.

I see on Castanet that Mr. Dressup was in town this morning, warming up or perhaps cooling down after the rainbow parade yesterday........ The mind reels, does it not?

My hope is that those who became involved with the political process for the first time when he was elected have remained engaged enough to see what a pronounced form of human emetic he - and his caucus - truly are.

In particular I'm less than pleased with the outright lies coming from the minister of injustice after the latest terrorist attack in Toronto.

Anyway sir, all the best to you and yours for the remainder of the summer. We'll have to do a coffee again sooner than later.

Dwayne

.............. x2!

The best part of him ran down his momma's thigh!