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Posted By: Hydemill In box pre 64 70 - 12/29/22
Hello all. I made my yearly trip down to Anchorage with the wife for Christmas and came back with a pretty neat present. Figured you guys would enjoy. It’s a 1961 standard grade 30-06. New unfired with all the hang tags and paperwork/box. I’m not really a collector but rather use my old model 70s like they were Walmart Remingtons. Not quite sure what to do with this one, but for now it’s going to stay hung up like a piece of artwork in my home.
Happy new year

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Posted By: kingston Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/29/22
That's cool!
Posted By: VarmintGuy Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/29/22
Hydemill: WHOA.... that'll do!
What a cool find/acquisition.
Keep up the good work. I always liked those latter era Model 70's with the Monte Carlo stocks - they fit me "good".
Enjoy and Happy new Year to you as well.
If you don't mind my asking how did you find/come across this cool Rifle.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
Posted By: Hydemill Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/29/22
Right place right time. It was in a gunshop on the rack. I had to save it from being cycled and dryfired 10000 times. The guy that took it in had thrown away the bolt serial number hang tag!!! After a little digging through the trash it was recovered thankfully.
Posted By: VarmintGuy Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/30/22
Hydemill: That is a cool story - thank goodness about the retrieved tag!
Again enjoy it.
Thanks for the comeback.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
Posted By: AKwolverine Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/30/22
That’s awesome!

Ummm … what store? 😬
Posted By: Hydemill Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/30/22
Wild West guns, and for what I feel like was a very fair price.
Posted By: AKwolverine Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/30/22
I haven’t been in there in years. That right there is motivation to do so!
Posted By: Hydemill Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/30/22
It was a great trip, aside from the weather. Got to even handle a biesen rifle. That said 3 days in anchorage was enough for me for the year 🤣
Posted By: handwerk Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/30/22
What a great find, enjoy!
Posted By: knivesforme Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/30/22
Nice,Congratulations.
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/30/22
Godalmighty, what a find. Congrats!
Posted By: 160user Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/30/22
OMG, that is awesome! After seeing the pictures I feel a twitch in my trousers. Wow!
Posted By: Jericho Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/30/22
Over the years I believe I have encountered 2 or 3 NIB pre64 M70s. All in 30-06
Posted By: Odessa Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/30/22
Nice gift! I have its used cousin, M70 30-06 from 1961 - can't beat 'em as a good working rifle.
Posted By: BKinSD Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/30/22
I love it! Congrats
Posted By: gunner500 Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/30/22
Damn! Sweet! congrats, great find, i'd have to hunt it.
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/30/22
I know a guy, getting up in years now, who developed a fetish for M70's when he was a teenager in the 1950's. He started acquiring them, new in box, and salting them away in foot locker-style chests. His collection represents at least one of every variant Winchester offered, in all the calibers and all the grades, new unfired. I sh*t you not. As far as I know, his existence isn't known to the M70 collecting fraternity in general plus he is very reclusive in nature. (An odd duck, who literally bought that stuff way back then rather than cars, women, houses, food, etc. that most normal humans consider necessary. Always worked decent paying blue collar jobs and put literally every dime not needed for bare subsistence into M70's.)

Like I said, he is now of very advanced years so I suppose the inevitable will happen fairly soon. When that does happen, you'll probably know it by the market flooding all of a sudden with new-in-box M70's. Please don't ask me for contact info, I've respected his privacy for over 50 years now and shall continue to do so.
Posted By: beretzs Re: In box pre 64 70 - 12/30/22
Originally Posted by gunner500
Damn! Sweet! congrats, great find, i'd have to hunt it.

Same here
Posted By: 338reddog Re: In box pre 64 70 - 01/04/23
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
I know a guy, getting up in years now, who developed a fetish for M70's when he was a teenager in the 1950's. He started acquiring them, new in box, and salting them away in foot locker-style chests. His collection represents at least one of every variant Winchester offered, in all the calibers and all the grades, new unfired. I sh*t you not. As far as I know, his existence isn't known to the M70 collecting fraternity in general plus he is very reclusive in nature. (An odd duck, who literally bought that stuff way back then rather than cars, women, houses, food, etc. that most normal humans consider necessary. Always worked decent paying blue collar jobs and put literally every dime not needed for bare subsistence into M70's.)
Like I said, he is now of very advanced years so I suppose the inevitable will happen fairly soon. When that does happen, you'll probably know it by the market flooding all of a sudden with new-in-box M70's. Please don't ask me for contact info, I've respected his privacy for over 50 years now and shall continue to do so.
I hope he has someone set up to dispose of his collection and who understands what they are doing.
I had a friend who introduced his wife to me 2 weeks before he was killed in a accident on a skeet range. After she went back into the house he asked me if anything were to happen to him please help his wife dispose of his very large collection.
I sent her a quick letter offering my help. I didn’t even want to do that. In retrospect I should have. She took the guns to a shop 90 miles away and sold them at $200 a piece. He had a lot of nice doubles and model 70’s and the list went on.
It was a sad situation and I wish he had told her to ask for
my help.
A similar thing happened when my best friend passed his son sold 15 nice guns to a gun shop for $100 a piece those guns would have brought $500-1000 ea. I ended up selling 5 guns for $5000 for him. I also bought his reloading collection for $10k as thats what he told me he wanted. I have sold more than $30k and am still working on get rid of what I don't need.
Congratulations to the OP on a neat find. I did find a 1950 94 NIB.
I ended up selling it to a friend as I wanted to shoot it. Lol
I was born in 1970 figured it would be neat to be the one that popped its cherry. Well outside the factory, I was talked out of that more than once?.
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: In box pre 64 70 - 01/04/23
Originally Posted by beretzs
Originally Posted by gunner500
Damn! Sweet! congrats, great find, i'd have to hunt it.

Same here
I’d have to at least shoot it. Pretty cool find, for sure
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: In box pre 64 70 - 01/04/23
Normally I would agree, and have done so many times with mint-y but not mint collectibles. But, the couple times I've splurged on vintage new-in-the-box somethings I couldn't bring myself to shoot them, and took the profit instead of constantly resisting the urge to shoot them.

One example: a 1940-vintage Colt Officer's Model .38, mint unfired, in its pristine box.* There wasn't even a hint of a trace of a turn mark on the cylinder - the gun had never so much as been cocked. I was proudly showing it to my Dad, and as I saw his thumb moving toward the hammer I yelled "Stop!" A fella offered me a handsome profit and it became his because I would have had dreams (nightmares?) about saying "screw it, I'm gonna shoot it."

* The story went that an Army Air Corps pilot bought it on the eve of shipping out, and didn't make it home from the war, and it laid in a closet for four decades before I bought it. Neat story. True, untrue? Who cares, the gun spoke for itself.
Posted By: 99guy Re: In box pre 64 70 - 01/04/23
For reasons stated by Gnoahh, I hate any and every gun new in the box but old.

It's a curse on the owner.
Posted By: ldg397 Re: In box pre 64 70 - 01/04/23
I would shoot the crap out of it. Just to hear the gasps and pearl clutching.
Posted By: Winnie70 Re: In box pre 64 70 - 01/04/23
I have a 1958 Ruger Single Six 22 LR never been fired bought it in late 90's. Probably would sell if right deal came alone.
Posted By: Poconojack Re: In box pre 64 70 - 01/04/23
Cardboard can be very expensive
Posted By: Hydemill Re: In box pre 64 70 - 01/04/23
I’m torn. I would like to put my own dings and dents in it, and pass it on if I have kids someday. But I can find clean used ones pretty regularly. That and there are places I hunt where a 30-06 hits a little softer than I’m comfortable with.
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: In box pre 64 70 - 01/05/23
Originally Posted by Hydemill
I’m torn. I would like to put my own dings and dents in it, and pass it on if I have kids someday. But I can find clean used ones pretty regularly. That and there are places I hunt where a 30-06 hits a little softer than I’m comfortable with.
You must hunt Africa or never tried a 200gr partition??
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: In box pre 64 70 - 01/05/23
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Normally I would agree, and have done so many times with mint-y but not mint collectibles. But, the couple times I've splurged on vintage new-in-the-box somethings I couldn't bring myself to shoot them, and took the profit instead of constantly resisting the urge to shoot them.

One example: a 1940-vintage Colt Officer's Model .38, mint unfired, in its pristine box.* There wasn't even a hint of a trace of a turn mark on the cylinder - the gun had never so much as been cocked. I was proudly showing it to my Dad, and as I saw his thumb moving toward the hammer I yelled "Stop!" A fella offered me a handsome profit and it became his because I would have had dreams (nightmares?) about saying "screw it, I'm gonna shoot it."

* The story went that an Army Air Corps pilot bought it on the eve of shipping out, and didn't make it home from the war, and it laid in a closet for
four decades before I bought it. Neat story. True, untrue? Who cares, the gun spoke for itself.

A guy could shoot the op’s rifle, clean it, and no one would even be able to tell. It’s been fired at the factory. But it’s the op’s rifle. He can do what he wants with it.
Posted By: Hydemill Re: In box pre 64 70 - 01/05/23
I have boxes of 200 grain partitions, and they are pretty impressive, I haven’t taken any game with them but have shot them through phone books and spruce trees behind the house. I have witnessed a 7 foot interior grizz shot over a fresh gut pile with 180 partitions (spicy hand loads) in a 30-06. It soaked up the first like nothing happened, enough time to get a second well placed shot. After some nerve wracking tracking we finally found him. After that I decided to pack meat back to the boat/strip with something a little heavier. I also like moose to drop where I want them to, 338 win or 9.3 (knock on wood) has always worked great for me in that sense.
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: In box pre 64 70 - 01/05/23
Originally Posted by Hydemill
I have boxes of 200 grain partitions, and they are pretty impressive, I haven’t taken any game with them but have shot them through phone books and spruce trees behind the house. I have witnessed a 7 foot interior grizz shot over a fresh gut pile with 180 partitions (spicy hand loads) in a 30-06. It soaked up the first like nothing happened, enough time to get a second well placed shot. After some nerve wracking tracking we finally found him. After that I decided to pack meat back to the boat/strip with something a little heavier. I also like moose to drop where I want them to, 338 win or 9.3 (knock on wood) has always worked great for me in that sense.
I stopped using 180’s because they don’t put 2 holes through elk. The 200 partition penetrates so much better. I’ve also shot them with the 9.3 and 260 partition. I saw no difference between that and the 30-06 loaded with 200’s. I also use a 338wm a lot and it works great, but I’d never feel undergunned with the 30-06 running 200gr partitions.
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