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Posted By: TCtim What's up with this MOA trigger - 02/07/20
I have a new mod 70 in 264 win mag. It had a 5 lb trigger at least. So I put a Ernie's spring kit in it.
Now sometimes I get a light hammer strike and it doesn't go boom. Some time if you snap it a couple time it will go off. So now I'm not sure what to do.
Send questions to Hernando Putzgonzallezelo at this address:

Long boat to Portugal
155 Winchester fu up
Browning Arms Comapany.
Portugal, Portugal
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Send questions to Hernando Putzgonzallezelo at this address:

Long boat to Portugal
155 Winchester fu up
Browning Arms Comapany.
Portugal, Portugal


Come on now you need a country postal code, for guys living in Oregon that’s a zip code.. lol

Ei John, por que você sempre tem que lamber as bolas de Portugal?
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Send questions to Hernando Putzgonzallezelo at this address:

Long boat to Portugal
155 Winchester fu up
Browning Arms Comapany.
Portugal, Portugal


🤣😂😅😭


Just order up a Timney, and be done with it.
I put a Ernies spring in my mew m70 Alaskan and never had a problem. No idea what your problem could be.
Try posting in the gunsmith forum
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter

Ei John, por que você sempre tem que lamber as bolas de Portugal?



lawrence não seja um paiute irritado .. além de você é a única arma européia que possui bola licker aqui com seus tikkas e sakos ..
Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter

Ei John, por que você sempre tem que lamber as bolas de Portugal?



lawrence não seja um paiute irritado .. além de você é a única arma européia que possui bola licker aqui com seus tikkas e sakos ..


Vocês estão me fazendo rir daqui.
Originally Posted by TCtim
I have a new mod 70 in 264 win mag. It had a 5 lb trigger at least. So I put a Ernie's spring kit in it.
Now sometimes I get a light hammer strike and it doesn't go boom. Some time if you snap it a couple time it will go off. So now I'm not sure what to do.


Get rid of that pos and find a NH model... smile
Originally Posted by TCtim
I have a new mod 70 in 264 win mag. It had a 5 lb trigger at least. So I put a Ernie's spring kit in it.
Now sometimes I get a light hammer strike and it doesn't go boom. Some time if you snap it a couple time it will go off. So now I'm not sure what to do.



Nice that a guy comes here for help and mostly gets BS. Great rifle and most are more than pleased with theirs..

A good smith can most likely fix it quickly.
Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by TCtim
I have a new mod 70 in 264 win mag. It had a 5 lb trigger at least. So I put a Ernie's spring kit in it.
Now sometimes I get a light hammer strike and it doesn't go boom. Some time if you snap it a couple time it will go off. So now I'm not sure what to do.



Nice that a guy comes here for help and mostly gets BS. Great rifle and most are more than pleased with theirs..
No BS from me - just short, succinct and proper advice..
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A good smith can most likely fix it quickly.
The MOA? Well, have fun with that.. smile

The NH trigger can be made to sing - and not have to go broke to get there...
More than a few seem to get along well with the new trigger. Did you ever have to work on an old one other than making one sing? And from your “have fun with that”, I guess you would be one that would prefer he not contact you? Scratch, move on and be glad there is more than one.

Still, the guy came here for help, and some think it humorous to blabber in tongues to do so.

Old geezers beetching about change is always good for a chuckle. 😎

Im sorry, make that traditionalists..
Originally Posted by TCtim
I have a new mod 70 in 264 win mag. It had a 5 lb trigger at least. So I put a Ernie's spring kit in it.
Now sometimes I get a light hammer strike and it doesn't go boom. Some time if you snap it a couple time it will go off. So now I'm not sure what to do.

Originally Posted by jkinpa
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Send questions to Hernando Putzgonzallezelo at this address:

Long boat to Portugal
155 Winchester fu up
Browning Arms Comapany.
Portugal, Portugal


🤣😂😅😭


Just order up a Timney, and be done with it.

Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by TCtim
I have a new mod 70 in 264 win mag. It had a 5 lb trigger at least. So I put a Ernie's spring kit in it.
Now sometimes I get a light hammer strike and it doesn't go boom. Some time if you snap it a couple time it will go off. So now I'm not sure what to do.


Get rid of that pos and find a NH model... smile

Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by TCtim
I have a new mod 70 in 264 win mag. It had a 5 lb trigger at least. So I put a Ernie's spring kit in it.
Now sometimes I get a light hammer strike and it doesn't go boom. Some time if you snap it a couple time it will go off. So now I'm not sure what to do.



Nice that a guy comes here for help and mostly gets BS. Great rifle and most are more than pleased with theirs..

A good smith can most likely fix it quickly.


Incorrect

Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by TCtim
I have a new mod 70 in 264 win mag. It had a 5 lb trigger at least. So I put a Ernie's spring kit in it.
Now sometimes I get a light hammer strike and it doesn't go boom. Some time if you snap it a couple time it will go off. So now I'm not sure what to do.



Nice that a guy comes here for help and mostly gets BS. Great rifle and most are more than pleased with theirs..
No BS from me - just short, succinct and proper advice..
Quote


A good smith can most likely fix it quickly.
The MOA? Well, have fun with that.. smile

The NH trigger can be made to sing - and not have to go broke to get there...



The triggers suck. Replace it or get a model 70 with a workable trigger. That’s the advice that was given.
Lighten up a bit fella. I'm sure the op can take a little humor.

Could be nobody here has the answer to his specific problem. New trigger, old geezers and all.

OP, my serious remedy to the problem is also, watch gunbroker for the New Haven CT. USA made "Classic" or Pre '64 Model 70 of your choice. The trigger will be the best hunting trigger ever made.
How are you sure with this being his 5th post??

The ones I’ve seen were fine, if I needed another Mod 70, I’d buy one of these before any other.

I’ve had two different pre 64’s go down. One a pin on the safety decided to leave and another had the bolt stop come out of alignment. I guess they suck also. Damn, what if it happened???!

Va se danar...since it’s humor, I’m sure you will be fine with that. 😀👍

“MOA, MOA!!!!”, and the fainting goats go down again. Funny!!
Don’t you just love humor?
Originally Posted by battue
How are you sure with this being his 5th post??

The ones I’ve seen were fine, if I needed another Mod 70, I’d buy one of these before any other.

I’ve had two different pre 64’s go down. One a pin on the safety and another had the bolt stop come out of alignment. I guess they suck also.

Va se damar.....since it’s humor, I’m sure you will be fine with that. 😀👍

“MOA, MOA:” and the fainting goats go down again. Funny!!
Don’t you just love humor?


Thanks for looking after the OP.

We’ll try and be more sensitive to others feelings, and make sure everyone gets an equal participation award no matter who wins or loses.


It’s not that issues can’t or don’t arise with other models. It’s just that it’s fairly known data that the triggers just suck. OP apparently wasn’t satisfied with it and had tinkered with it in an attempt to improve upon it. When that didn’t work, posted a question of what’s next?
Two options have been given, and unless you’re adding a third, which I haven’t seen yet. The OP should either take this advice or not.
Like to see what the response would be if he made fun of one of you during one of your model 70 circle jerks.

The goats would all be incapacitated. Wouldn’t that be humorous?

Pay attention, I told him to go to a good Smith. If he sends me a PM I know one that can take care of it in his sleep.
I think you’re having a bad day, bro. Maybe take your meds or lay off of them. I wish you all the best.
If you're having light strikes, then I'd suspect the cocking piece is possibly dragging on the sear. Looking at the diagram of a MOA trigger it might be the actuator isn't moving away from the sear far enough and binding it. Since you were into the trigger, and it didn't do it before, I'd suspect something wasn't reassembled correctly or the pull weight or overtravel screw is in too far. Just my WAG, good luck.

BTW, I'm in the camp that feels the MOA was not an improvement to the M70, just the opposite, but that's what happened when Browning got their mitts on it. mad


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Again one of the old worn-out campfire stupid comebacks when the other is lost.

I’m having a great day and I’m not your bro, and I doubt you would make the cut. You not being all that fond of humor at your expense.
Originally Posted by tmitch
Since you were into the trigger, and it didn't do it before, I'd suspect something wasn't reassembled correctly or the pull weight or overtravel screw is in too far. Just my WAG, good luck.


x2, This ^^^

Changing the spring to a lighter one didn’t induce a light strike problem that wasn’t there before you started. Disassemble and inspect or take it to someone who is familiar. I’ve owned 5 M70’s with the MOA trigger, not an issue with any of them.
Might need to clean / flush / or soak in lighter fluid. Agree with earlier post that likely something is dragging. Cleaning and lubing may help of solve the issue. Lighter fluid is a very light lube.

If that doesn't do it, may need to take parts out, and lightly stone sides on extra fine hard stone. Might be a micro-burr somewhere causing drag.

You are NOT stoning the sear, just the sides or possibly the edges ( just enough to break the edge).
Or replace it with a Timney...... I hope TriggerTech will make one for the BACOs,, It would be a YUGE improvement.. FWIW.
That is silly to tell him his rifle is pos.
Might want to take the bolt apart and clean the inside as well as the firing pin/spring, then lightly lube. Earlier suggested cleaning, and stoning trigger parts to remove possible micro-burrs that could be causing hang up/drag.
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