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Posted By: bbassi Over/Under at $1650 - 01/09/15
What do you think? I'm guessing over

SS 70 LH
Whoops, didn't realize what your thread was about and started another. I'm guessin' waaay over. I'm thinking maybe $1800+



*Deleted my other thread on the same rifle
Posted By: Jim in Idaho Re: Over/Under at $1300 - 01/09/15
$1225 after 6 bids and well over 6 days to go.

I'm thinking it could hit $2000. Not saying it will but it's a realistic possibility.
Posted By: bbassi Re: Over/Under at $1300 - 01/09/15
Well it was $505 w 2 bids when I posted this so let's say O/U at $1650 just to make it interesting. smile

and BTW I have nothing to do with this gun or the seller.
That's the first LH Stainless Classic I've seen come up in quite awhile, especially in a non-magnum caliber.
Makes my idea of satin mag cerakoting my "blued 70's" as a sensible alternative for $180.00 a rifle.
I'm guessing "Over"... ball park $1800... As tmitch said, first SS in a non-mag in along while...
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: Over/Under at $1300 - 01/10/15
Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
$1225 after 6 bids and well over 6 days to go.

I'm thinking it could hit $2000. Not saying it will but it's a realistic possibility.


Yep.. The stock is very plan jane, so my guess is right around $1,850.00...
Originally Posted by scottf270
Makes my idea of satin mag cerakoting my "blued 70's" as a sensible alternative for $180.00 a rifle.


Hey Scott, where you gettin' those for $180? Put me down for a couple! laugh Didn't you just get a SS .270 for "cheap"?

A guy near Festus, MO. Who used to team with Blackwood Firearms. His name is Jeff Forbush. I'll post his contact later if you want it. He's done one rifle and several sets of rings and bases. I think they look great.
Yes, I got a .270 for a grand. I'd like to have this one but it's gonna be up there.

I've got that rifle, in a Mcmillan hunters edge, and Lupy 2.5x8,

2500?

No it's not for sale, just thinking out loud.....
Yeah, I think "the jigs up' on getting LH Stainless Classics for reasonable on Gunbroker. Of course the prices they get make me feel good about the ones I have. You'll have to post a pic of your coated gun.
Getting down the wire on this one--I don't think the "under $1650" is going to hold.
Quite the bidding going on at the last minutes, 1875 right now.
Almost $2K. Will it get there??
$1926 with 12 minutes to go. Looks like my original $2000 estimate wasn't so far off.






Okay, so it was a wild ass guess and not an estimate, I can still take credit for it...
I think t.ozzy75 gave it up.........unless he's waiting till the last second to screw with sli and put another 15 minutes on the clock.
eek
Mallet drops on 1926, whoa.
Bidding war started with less than 2 minutes to go on the auction, and ran the price up $300.
Ah, the drama of the auction!
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Mallet drops on 1926, whoa.



I wasn't too far off at $1,850.00..... laugh. Jim in Idaho said $2,000.00 and he was closer than my guess by $2.00... laugh
I can't believe someone would be so stupid to spend that kind of money on an average factory gun. The MRC rifles are much better and cost a lot less.
I bought the other LH Winchester (the 7RM) on Gun Broker today, and that price makes me feel better about what I paid.
Originally Posted by gerrygoat
I can't believe someone would be so stupid to spend that kind of money on an average factory gun. The MRC rifles are much better and cost a lot less.



Not necessarily. I was quoted a price of $1,968.37 plus shipping on a left hand XWR SS rifle just the other day. Here's the email. This is straight from the horses mouth. I don't buy into this bs about it going thru the custom shop, but what the fu ck ever...:

Hi,

Happy New Year and thank you for your interest in Montana Rifle Company!

Yes, we sure can, that would go through the custom shop and the cost would be $1968.37 plus shipping.

Thanks and let me know if we can get one of these great rifles started for you.




Sincerely,

Larry





Larry Craven

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Kalispell, Montana 59901



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Last week I found a CM model of the same rifle for a left handed pal;he grabbed it for $575;picked it up on Monday. I would never have paid $2k for the same rifle in SS...there's not THAT much difference.

Gosh Bob, wish I had you find me one.
My whole life I've wanted Winchesters in Left hand. I just got tired of losing the auctions.
Originally Posted by gerrygoat
I can't believe someone would be so stupid to spend that kind of money on an average factory gun. The MRC rifles are much better and cost a lot less.

I was tempted to jump in and do something "stupid" as well. However, two things held me up. First, I netted out in the same place as gerrygoat. I can do a custom build on an MRC action for comparable money and have everything just the way I want it. Second, being the "tinkerer" that I am, it would only be a matter of time before I did something that would kill the collector value such as rebarrel or Black-T...

Congrats to the seller and the buyer...
Richard I bump into them... smile They show here now and then....some mag and some std bolt face.

This pal asked me in November to keep an eye peeled for one and I found it last week. I actually found him two but the other one had been customized with a Brux 270 barrel and Bansner stock.....that one was over $2k,and he did not want to spend that much.

PM me your contact info (cell #) and if I see one I will let you know.


Originally Posted by Orion2000
...Congrats to the seller and the buyer...

My sentiments exactly. The seller got a great price, the buyer got a rare item that he obviously valued quite highly and that's the way the free market works. Congratulations to both of them.
You don't see many out here but this summer I was lucky enough to stumble upon two NIB left hand Featherweights in 270 WM and 7mm WSM. A gunstore owner had put away two of them with the best wood and when he retired he passed them on to the store owner where I found them. That owner was selling them for the current cost of a comparable right hand model and had just put both on his shelf that morning. Not the most desirable chamberings but I snapped up the 270 WSM and advertised the other here and I believe that one was sold the next day.
Jim nice snags! wink

I have a few left hand friends who hunt...they keep eyes peeled for them. One has a few rifles built on the actions.
When I think of how many LH Model 70 .30-06's have passed through my hands in the last 19 years... cry

FWIW, the stainless steel models were only made for one year in the first year of LH production, 1996 IIRC or maybe 1997. They have the little screw in the upper right side of the bolt shroud which I understand is the more desirable design, later models dispensed with it. I also recall one of the gun writers reporting that D'Arcy Echols had used several of those early LH 70's for custom rifles and said they were the straightest (squarest) actions on a factory rifle he'd ever seen, so their quality was top notch.
Posted By: KenMi Re: SS M70, Over/Under at $1650? - 01/16/15
There were a few common problems of the era though:

1) Triggers: Usually could be correctly quite easily. Some just were not adjusted well at the factory. Some were 6-8# out of the box, and rough. But the design at least allows a trigger job without aftermarket trigger a necessity

2) Accuracy: Most were decent. Some were bad. Again, usually could be corrected. Bedding, barrel stock pressure, and screw torque were common causes of accuracy issues. I don't know that there were any "bad" barrels out there.

3) Scope mount holes: This was one bad problem. For some reason, as good as the actions were, they did not get the scope mount holes straight on all the actions. This sometimes meant using a scope base with adjustable windage, because with fixed bases, there would not be enough windage adjustment in the scope to compensate for the yaw. This was the case on the one I had. You could visibly see how much the rear ring was offset on the base to run true. Talley Manufacturing knew about this problem, and said that their rings/bases could not be used on some of the guns because of this issue.

All in all, good guns though, and it was a shame they only had the limited production of the SS. But, for $1925 now, a safer bet would be the Montana. At least there would be customer service possible if there was an issue.
Posted By: 30338 Re: SS M70, Over/Under at $1650? - 01/17/15
For those types of rigs, Gunbroker is definitely the sellers friend. I'd go MRC if I needed a control feed, but gimping along with my 700s�.
Well, in the interest of conversation, I will now fess up that I was the seller of that rifle. I did not post it for sale here in the classifieds because I did not have the ballz to ask the kind of money I suspected it would bring at auction. I did not post much about the ad before this because shilling your own auction seems crass.

By the end of the auction, the ad had been opened about 600 times, and there were 45 watchers. Five separate guys had bid more than $1200 for it. I know that the final buyer was willing to pay more for the rifle than he ultimately did, because he put in a "protection bid" above his $1926 purchase price. While I won't provide any information about the buyer, I will say he lives in a southeastern (i.e., hot and humid) state where a stainless rifle makes a lot more sense that it does for me in the arid west. So it was worth more to him than to me, and that is the basis for a market transaction.

I got the rifle by trading off a LH blued .270 and an undisclosed amount of cash. I have come to realize that my hoarding of LH Winchesters probably does not make sense, so have sold off four in the past year--two here on the campfire (a 7mm Rem and a .375 H&H) and two on gunbroker (a blued 30-06 and a stainless 30-06.) I suspect I am out of the LH M70 market--I cannot imagine buying any more and I have no more than I am interested in selling. Actually, now that I think about it, there is one more I need to sell...
Good for you! Congtats...... cool
Well you sure did well, congrats grin
Originally Posted by utah708
Well, in the interest of conversation, I will now fess up that I was the seller of that rifle. I did not post it for sale here in the classifieds because I did not have the ballz to ask the kind of money I suspected it would bring at auction. I did not post much about the ad before this because shilling your own auction seems crass.

By the end of the auction, the ad had been opened about 600 times, and there were 45 watchers. Five separate guys had bid more than $1200 for it. I know that the final buyer was willing to pay more for the rifle than he ultimately did, because he put in a "protection bid" above his $1926 purchase price. While I won't provide any information about the buyer, I will say he lives in a southeastern (i.e., hot and humid) state where a stainless rifle makes a lot more sense that it does for me in the arid west. So it was worth more to him than to me, and that is the basis for a market transaction.

I got the rifle by trading off a LH blued .270 and an undisclosed amount of cash. I have come to realize that my hoarding of LH Winchesters probably does not make sense, so have sold off four in the past year--two here on the campfire (a 7mm Rem and a .375 H&H) and two on gunbroker (a blued 30-06 and a stainless 30-06.) I suspect I am out of the LH M70 market--I cannot imagine buying any more and I have no more than I am interested in selling. Actually, now that I think about it, there is one more I need to sell...



That rifle had too ugly of a stock to be yours...
Originally Posted by gerrygoat
I can't believe someone would be so stupid to spend that kind of money on an average factory gun. The MRC rifles are much better and cost a lot less.


i think the same.

Phil
Y'all been seeing any left hand MRCs.? I've seen them on their website but none for sale.
Originally Posted by herschel34
Y'all been seeing any left hand MRCs.? I've seen them on their website but none for sale.
Old news: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=459313862

Try and get out a little more.
Posted By: Huntr Re: SS M70, Over/Under at $1650? - 01/22/15
Spoke with a Winchester rep at SHOT today about LH rifles. He said he would love to see them as it is one of the most requested items..... But, it isn't gonna happen according to him, even as much as he would like.

However, Defiance has a new CRF action available in LH configuration that is simply stunning.
Posted By: KenMi Re: SS M70, Over/Under at $1650? - 01/22/15
Originally Posted by herschel34
Y'all been seeing any left hand MRCs.? I've seen them on their website but none for sale.


Very scarce. And not any currently
What is the name of the defiance action and what is the cost?
Originally Posted by Huntr
Spoke with a Winchester rep at SHOT today about LH rifles. He said he would love to see them as it is one of the most requested items..... But, it isn't gonna happen according to him, even as much as he would like.
...

Unbelievable that these companies realize the demand yet refuse to satisfy it.
They figure they have enough RH support, and obviously they do.

It really shows how Ruger and TIkka, and even Browning saw a huge marketing opportunity and seized it and are enjoying the resulting market share.
One would think that these purchasers of Ruger, Tikka, Browning...products will buy those same products for upcoming RH shooters in their lives. Apparently Winchester, Kimber and to this point Remington couldn't care less. We'll see if Rem really does make good with the SS actions already referenced.

Thanks for the updates Huntr and for your LH diligence at Shot..
Originally Posted by KenMi
Originally Posted by herschel34
Y'all been seeing any left hand MRCs.? I've seen them on their website but none for sale.


Very scarce. And not any currently


Spoke with them today. They are not making the extreme X2 models in LH yet. Maybe a few months.
Posted By: Huntr Re: SS M70, Over/Under at $1650? - 01/23/15
They are making LH long action X2 hunters now- had one in my hands. Stock molds are being finished for short actions and should be available by summer according to the rep I talked to Tuesday at SHOT.
I did ask about a 308. Sorry about the misinformation.
One on Gunbroker now. 300 Win mag lefty. I don't know if it's the X2 or not.
Winchester's stupidity is MRC's gain. I hope MRC does well filling the void (with a better rifle I might add) and Winchester can do what ever they want. What a bunch of idiots........
I believe the current market bubble in the price of the stainless LH is temporary because somebody will fill it. That is part of the reason I sold mine.

But having had multiple MRC actions come through my hands, I like the Win 70 better.
Posted By: Billu Re: SS M70, Over/Under at $1650? - 01/23/15
I have that same rifle, but mine has the BOSS. It will stay with me smile Owned one without the BOSS that I could not get to shoot well and sold it a long while back. Wish I had kept the other Stainless and wood Left hand o6 as well.......
Probably the only Winchester I would own now would be a LH 264 Win Mag in a Featherweight or maybe a smaller 6.5 of some kind. Either of those would have been great.
Originally Posted by gerrygoat
Probably the only Winchester I would own now would be a LH 264 Win Mag in a Featherweight or maybe a smaller 6.5 of some kind. Either of those would have been great.
I know where one of those is available, but you probably do too. wink
I don't actually but I just bought a new LH CDL 270 Win so that was my purchase for the foreseeable future smile
Did you get the one from Armacoat? That was a screaming deal...

I'll send you a link, if only to tempt you. wink
No I saw that after I ordered, got mine from Bashaw. It was a good deal but not quite like the one you mentioned.
Enjoy it! Range report please. Bet it's boring though... wink
Originally Posted by gerrygoat
Winchester's stupidity is MRC's gain. I hope MRC does well filling the void (with a better rifle I might add) and Winchester can do what ever they want. What a bunch of idiots........


I have to agree, even thought Utah708 says the Winchesters are better. I'd be willing to try the MRC out.. If it's like a Ruger m77, it can be polished out and made very slick. The MRC is, however, a lot more reminiscent of the pre 64 model 70 except for a few extra safety features: Better gas handling etc... I'd give one a try, if for no other reason than to say I've BTDT... wink
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