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Ah, the drama of the auction!
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Mallet drops on 1926, whoa. I wasn't too far off at $1,850.00.....  . Jim in Idaho said $2,000.00 and he was closer than my guess by $2.00...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I can't believe someone would be so stupid to spend that kind of money on an average factory gun. The MRC rifles are much better and cost a lot less.
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I bought the other LH Winchester (the 7RM) on Gun Broker today, and that price makes me feel better about what I paid.
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I can't believe someone would be so stupid to spend that kind of money on an average factory gun. The MRC rifles are much better and cost a lot less. Not necessarily. I was quoted a price of $1,968.37 plus shipping on a left hand XWR SS rifle just the other day. Here's the email. This is straight from the horses mouth. I don't buy into this bs about it going thru the custom shop, but what the fu ck ever...: Hi,
Happy New Year and thank you for your interest in Montana Rifle Company!
Yes, we sure can, that would go through the custom shop and the cost would be $1968.37 plus shipping.
Thanks and let me know if we can get one of these great rifles started for you.
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Last week I found a CM model of the same rifle for a left handed pal;he grabbed it for $575;picked it up on Monday. I would never have paid $2k for the same rifle in SS...there's not THAT much difference.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Gosh Bob, wish I had you find me one.
My whole life I've wanted Winchesters in Left hand. I just got tired of losing the auctions.
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I can't believe someone would be so stupid to spend that kind of money on an average factory gun. The MRC rifles are much better and cost a lot less. I was tempted to jump in and do something "stupid" as well. However, two things held me up. First, I netted out in the same place as gerrygoat. I can do a custom build on an MRC action for comparable money and have everything just the way I want it. Second, being the "tinkerer" that I am, it would only be a matter of time before I did something that would kill the collector value such as rebarrel or Black-T... Congrats to the seller and the buyer...
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Richard I bump into them...  They show here now and then....some mag and some std bolt face. This pal asked me in November to keep an eye peeled for one and I found it last week. I actually found him two but the other one had been customized with a Brux 270 barrel and Bansner stock.....that one was over $2k,and he did not want to spend that much. PM me your contact info (cell #) and if I see one I will let you know.
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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...Congrats to the seller and the buyer... My sentiments exactly. The seller got a great price, the buyer got a rare item that he obviously valued quite highly and that's the way the free market works. Congratulations to both of them.
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You don't see many out here but this summer I was lucky enough to stumble upon two NIB left hand Featherweights in 270 WM and 7mm WSM. A gunstore owner had put away two of them with the best wood and when he retired he passed them on to the store owner where I found them. That owner was selling them for the current cost of a comparable right hand model and had just put both on his shelf that morning. Not the most desirable chamberings but I snapped up the 270 WSM and advertised the other here and I believe that one was sold the next day.
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Jim nice snags!  I have a few left hand friends who hunt...they keep eyes peeled for them. One has a few rifles built on the actions.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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When I think of how many LH Model 70 .30-06's have passed through my hands in the last 19 years...  FWIW, the stainless steel models were only made for one year in the first year of LH production, 1996 IIRC or maybe 1997. They have the little screw in the upper right side of the bolt shroud which I understand is the more desirable design, later models dispensed with it. I also recall one of the gun writers reporting that D'Arcy Echols had used several of those early LH 70's for custom rifles and said they were the straightest (squarest) actions on a factory rifle he'd ever seen, so their quality was top notch.
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There were a few common problems of the era though:
1) Triggers: Usually could be correctly quite easily. Some just were not adjusted well at the factory. Some were 6-8# out of the box, and rough. But the design at least allows a trigger job without aftermarket trigger a necessity
2) Accuracy: Most were decent. Some were bad. Again, usually could be corrected. Bedding, barrel stock pressure, and screw torque were common causes of accuracy issues. I don't know that there were any "bad" barrels out there.
3) Scope mount holes: This was one bad problem. For some reason, as good as the actions were, they did not get the scope mount holes straight on all the actions. This sometimes meant using a scope base with adjustable windage, because with fixed bases, there would not be enough windage adjustment in the scope to compensate for the yaw. This was the case on the one I had. You could visibly see how much the rear ring was offset on the base to run true. Talley Manufacturing knew about this problem, and said that their rings/bases could not be used on some of the guns because of this issue.
All in all, good guns though, and it was a shame they only had the limited production of the SS. But, for $1925 now, a safer bet would be the Montana. At least there would be customer service possible if there was an issue.
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For those types of rigs, Gunbroker is definitely the sellers friend. I'd go MRC if I needed a control feed, but gimping along with my 700s�.
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Well, in the interest of conversation, I will now fess up that I was the seller of that rifle. I did not post it for sale here in the classifieds because I did not have the ballz to ask the kind of money I suspected it would bring at auction. I did not post much about the ad before this because shilling your own auction seems crass.
By the end of the auction, the ad had been opened about 600 times, and there were 45 watchers. Five separate guys had bid more than $1200 for it. I know that the final buyer was willing to pay more for the rifle than he ultimately did, because he put in a "protection bid" above his $1926 purchase price. While I won't provide any information about the buyer, I will say he lives in a southeastern (i.e., hot and humid) state where a stainless rifle makes a lot more sense that it does for me in the arid west. So it was worth more to him than to me, and that is the basis for a market transaction.
I got the rifle by trading off a LH blued .270 and an undisclosed amount of cash. I have come to realize that my hoarding of LH Winchesters probably does not make sense, so have sold off four in the past year--two here on the campfire (a 7mm Rem and a .375 H&H) and two on gunbroker (a blued 30-06 and a stainless 30-06.) I suspect I am out of the LH M70 market--I cannot imagine buying any more and I have no more than I am interested in selling. Actually, now that I think about it, there is one more I need to sell...
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Good for you! Congtats...... 
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Well you sure did well, congrats 
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Well, in the interest of conversation, I will now fess up that I was the seller of that rifle. I did not post it for sale here in the classifieds because I did not have the ballz to ask the kind of money I suspected it would bring at auction. I did not post much about the ad before this because shilling your own auction seems crass.
By the end of the auction, the ad had been opened about 600 times, and there were 45 watchers. Five separate guys had bid more than $1200 for it. I know that the final buyer was willing to pay more for the rifle than he ultimately did, because he put in a "protection bid" above his $1926 purchase price. While I won't provide any information about the buyer, I will say he lives in a southeastern (i.e., hot and humid) state where a stainless rifle makes a lot more sense that it does for me in the arid west. So it was worth more to him than to me, and that is the basis for a market transaction.
I got the rifle by trading off a LH blued .270 and an undisclosed amount of cash. I have come to realize that my hoarding of LH Winchesters probably does not make sense, so have sold off four in the past year--two here on the campfire (a 7mm Rem and a .375 H&H) and two on gunbroker (a blued 30-06 and a stainless 30-06.) I suspect I am out of the LH M70 market--I cannot imagine buying any more and I have no more than I am interested in selling. Actually, now that I think about it, there is one more I need to sell... That rifle had too ugly of a stock to be yours...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I can't believe someone would be so stupid to spend that kind of money on an average factory gun. The MRC rifles are much better and cost a lot less. i think the same. Phil
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