Ardern seems to think that its fair and reasonable that Brenton should be sent to Australia to serve his life sentence and that we Aussie taxpayers foot the bill - really? As I recall, they allowed him to purchase the guns that he used in his massacre, so how is Australia responsible for this?

What a [bleep]. So is he.

Australia could send its New Zealand prisoners back to NZ.

Be a big one way deal!

If she personally pushed him out of a plane door I might even consider voting for her. Might.

I wouldn't go that far - pushing Brenton out of a plane yes but not voting for Ardern. If she doesn't want NZ to pay for Brenton's life long imprisonment, why not just put a bullet in his head? Or maybe arrange for the aforementioned plane incident?

Screw it, you caught him you keep him, and take the rest of your crooks back too.

You're responsible because you bred the bastard.



There's a fair few Aussies in Kiwi jails too. You can have them back along with Tarrant. Anyway, I don't like Tarrant's chances of living a long and happy life in prison. I would guess that most convicted murderers in the slammer don't condone killing children.

Those who break the law while abroad are usually convicted and punished in that nation. There may be a prisoner exchange agreement between nations, but how often does that happen.....

No I didn't, and that's kinda racist. We don't deliberately breed people to be killers and then send them out around the world. Him being Australian has nothing to do with it besides he never killed anyone over here. How did NZ allow him to purchase firearms - don't you need to be a citizen? Wouldn't this be accountable to NZ?

I could not care less what you do with him or the others you have under wraps, would definitely like you to take all your crooked cousins back from here though.

Well we could trial a system where the kiwis get to keep their crooks AND we send all the rest of them back over there as well...what is a few thousand extra expat peds, rapists, murderers, and assorted filth to the kiwis.

That ardern horror would gladly take them in and provide succour.

Apparently the better part of three thousand of them.

You'd have to ask the NZ Police about the question of Tarrant's vetting and subsequent firearms acquisition. You don't have to be a citizen to hold a licence as far as I know.

To be honest I don't see how the kiwi coppers could have picked up on the lunatic, and I have to say that I am very pleased he didn't do that here.

You should keep him.

Tongans would enjoy a traditional hungi...

Australia has been deporting her criminals to NZ for quite a while, despite the fact that virtually all of them have spent their lives in Australia and hold NZ citizenship only on paper. Most of them have never been to NZ.

So yeah, you can have Tarrant back.

Eliminate him and all like him.Where there is 100% clear evidence of guilt they should be euthanized (for those that can't accept the truth) with 30 days of decree of guilt.
Worldwide this would save millions of dollars being wasted n scum of the earth.

Maybe he's wondering why somebody would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane.

Yeah I don't see the point of letting murderers live - they have forfeited any "right" to rehabilitation. Their victims don't get any further chances for anything. On Australia Day here in Brisbane we had a juvenile on drugs in a stolen car kill a young couple (the woman also happened to be pregnant) - they can't release his name because he is a juvenile and they have to protect his identity. I kinda thought he would forgo any special treatment because he killed innocents. We need the death penalty down here.

Kiwi criminals deported from Aus wrecking havoc..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...a-cause-huge-crime-wave-New-Zealand.html

Yes we do, I am over pandering to the spiteful murderous bastards.

oh the Irony. 2 Penal colonies fighting over who should keep the troglodites

We were thinking of sending them to you but since the election you already have enough problems.


So we will just keep shipping them to NZ.

That - is funny. Thanks.

Given that your country has by far the highest prison population in the world, and the highest incarceration rate in the world - several times ours - it would seem that the US is the prison colony now.

Even though NZ wasn't a penal colony there are claims that some of the deportees ended up here.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/78...s-are-descendants-of-australian-convicts

Stealing a loaf of bread because your family is starving and getting sent to a penal colony in Tasmania was deplorable. Most victims of that dark episode in history would probably be considered good civic minded citizens these days.

The death penalty has it's pros and cons.

NZ was made part of the official territory
of the penal colony of NSW prior to First Fleet
departing Portsmouth harbor, May 13th 1787.
(as per ammended commission by instruction
of the Court of St.James, April 25th 1787..the
orig. commission being ratified Oct.12th 1786)

and if one reads the proclamation of 1788
concerning the establishment of the colony
under Arthur Phillips ammended commission
as Governor of the colony and representative
of the Crown, you will find it to be true.

Re:

"all the islands adjacent in the Pacific Ocean within
the latitudes of 10°37'S and 43°39"S.."

Basically it included the whole of the North Island
and a healthy portion of the South Island.

TOUCHE!

Excellent response, and that shows the real irony doesn't it?

Sounds like maybe some kiwis are in denial?

Maybe, but most of them are here.

Could simply be many don't know the actual documented
details of British colonial history and if one were to quiz
Australians on it, you would also find them lacking such
knowledge. Some long held common beliefs about
James Cook are plain wrong, yet they perpetuate.

eg: Some seem to think Cook sailed into Botany Bay
and claimed Australia for the British Crown.
Or ask them when and where Cook and Phillip first
had British colors raised and what flag was raised
by them and I bet most don't know.

But hey we are talking about common folk who think
Breaker Morant was Australian coz that's the lasting
impression they got from a directors artistic license
script.

But what can one expect when even the Oz PM
gives the wrong impression of history to the nation
by sending the replica of the HMS bark Endeavour
on a circumnavigation of the continent despite the
fact neither the Endeavour or Cook having ever
undertaken such a voyage.

Alternative facts, haha.

Interesting!

Scummo is an ignorant tool. EOS

who's nation was founded by one country sending the scu of the land to it? oh, and the very same country was ucerimoniously tossed out of this our problem isnt a hgh prison popuation. its the fact we dont kill nearly enough of those in prison

Ouch. My parents emigrated here from Germany after the war as did many others from other counties. So I guess in your mind that means that we are a mixture of convicts and war criminals. Wikipedia reckons that 20% of the current Aussie population is descended from convicts. 0.7% of the USA population is in prison while 0.16% of the Aussie population is in prison. Still think you're a pot calling the kettle black at best, ignorant and hypocritical at worst.

No nation was founded with the establishment
of the NSW Penal Colony.

Even after establishing a number of colonies
on the mainland, there still was no such
thing as an actual nation called Australia.

By the time of Federation, free settlers and
migrants and their offspring overwhelming
made up the bulk of the population.
Sources indicate approx 160,000 convicts
reached the shores (1788-1868) and the
population of Australia (Federation 1901)
was put at near 3.8 million.

And clearly by that time many transported
but now X-convicts were already long dead.
Of the still living one's who chose to remain,
it was some decades past the transportation
sentences they had served.

Penal colony. Ho-Lii...crap. (Respect for our Aussie/Kiwi cousins)


Why throw that up?

Longtime ago, in a far away time.

Kinda like American slavery.
My work today has too many issues to waste time on factoids from
the decade before last.

If an American want to stick his nose into Australian issues,
the China issue is much more important. To all English language
nations.