They're all I buy now. I haven't tried it yet, but some are able to use the CR with .458 bullets so they don't have to buy the special orange MMPs.

I usually buy them direct, as most local shops don't carry much stock and the one that does marks them up by a third.

You shouldn't have to slug your barrel for sabots; the TCs are designed around them. With my Knight, I don't need a starter for .452/sabot loads; just my thumb. Conicals are another matter. They need to be started straight to shoot straight. I use a 1/2" flanged spacer that looks like a top hat with the top cut out, to start the Hornady FPBs. Keeps them square to the bore. My starter tip is coned out to fit the point.

Last edited by Pappy348; 07/26/15.

What fresh Hell is this?