Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
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2 to 1 what poll did those number come from?


Free population of the whole US 1860 ~ 28 million.

Free population of the future Confederate States 1860 ~ 9 million.

28 million total - 9 million free Southerners = 19 million in the Free States.

19 million/9 million is pretty much 2 to 1.

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to 1 has nothing to do with constitutional


The majority clearly disagreed.

The most correct way of doing this would have been to muster the votes to get an Amendment on the issue, one way or the other.

Birdwatcher


You're intellectually dishonest idiot.

The states had/have the Constitutional right of secession. The South seceded. You might not like their rationale for secession (doubt the Brits liked the Colonial rationales or the Mexicans those of Tejas), but they had the right and even more so under the Constitution.

Lincoln invaded, in violation of the Constitution and law.

If you had a clue wtf you were talking about, you'd never have lobbed out that BS 2:1 argument. It only confirms you as intellectually dishonest and a fool.

Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.