I have been shooting the 416 REM mag for 17 years .My favorite load is the speer 350 gr mag tip bullet at 2400 fps .It expands awesome and will flatten any moose out to 250 yards .I shot it all the time in my model 70 Winchester.It kicks like a 20 GA .I lucked up and night 416s when they were $600 each .I bought a bunch .They will flatten any bear around too!