Go find an old original semi-auto Carbine. Mine is a very early one and just a couple of weeks I had it out prepping for spring bear. A book (Hodgdon) max load of 110 pushing a 250 gr Partition had five landing inside 2 1/2" at a hundred yards and the 8" gong was routine at 200 yards. It does the same with the 270 gr GD. I have shot cast just fine though a tear down and cleaning is required.
