I went plane Jane 260. defiance rebel, mcmillan Classic in rhino, and bartlein #3 at 22". Smithed by dana english. Ships to me this Monday. For me it was brass availability such as Lapua and roll my own off of the abundance of 308 and 243 I have. I didn't go AI because reloading is new to me and didn't want to get in over my head at the beginning. The creedmore just didn't really have enough to sway me seeing as I can only buy hornady brass. I bought 3 boxes of hornady 243 brass last year, and most had dented necks, and primer flash holes way off center. I bought some remington like that before too. I know dented necks don't matter but it bothered me. I guess my ocd covers reloading too