I wasn't trying to hijack the thread, it's called WV Report,and I'm from Wv .The gun is my Dads old eg that has no collector value,but shoots great..I'm shooting the speer 87gr. hot-cor over 36 gr Reloader15 seated at 2.49..I,m using a Leupold VX1 ,I shot them both in the high neck,each at about 80,or 90 yards