Thanks for the input. Been shotguning for a lot of years. Competitively first with M12 then 1100, to 3200, 303 and then to Kguns. Then to a lot of wonderful years with bird dogs and bird guns with a lot of SxS shoots along the way. Load for all gauges. Have lost track of Autoloader devopment. Still enjoy an old 303 12ga for winter clays. Not too impressed with looks of new 400's. Dawson wants 995 for a 391. Seems like a lot for used gun and I recall dumping one pretty quick because they were nasty to clean.