I dunno Shrapnel,

I'd guess that a lot of guys care less about groups with a handgun than you seem to believe. Especially so with defense or duty weapons.

My own 1911, a budget model with sight upgrade, shoots so-so groups at anything other than very short range. I do manage to get the first shot out of the holster pretty much right on the sights, and it is extremely reliable. And it's all I'll ever ask from a defensive pistol.


"Chances Will Be Taken"