Yeah, quite often with a 1911 or HP. The K9 moves around too much for me without a holster, so I avoid that. Too easy to get by with that gun in an OWB mini scabbard anyway, but if I'm wanting to make sure I'm really discrete the VMII works well. PF9 with the clip carries well in a pinch - but these days I'm not comfortable going with so little gun.


Lunatic fringe....we all know you're out there.