Originally Posted by DesertMuleDeer
Originally Posted by BobinNH
280 owners say the cutest things to try to make their cartridge #1 on a standard case ,especially since their pet has required artificial respiration to keep it alive since it came on the scene in 1956 smile

Like making up things about pressures, bearing surfaces, perfect powder capacity,superior killing effectiveness (LOL!), etc etc. Then, to make their case for how good it is,what do they do? Blow it out to AI and thump their chests about how great it is. If it's that good how come it needed "improvement"? LOL!

Which all gives me heartburn because the 280 is one of my 2 favorite "light" cartridges on the 06 case.

It's amusing to watch and has been going on for years.Old conversation. sick

Like Johnny B once wrote (about the 280 or something else, I can't remember), they remind you of some guy who's into collecting rare and exotic scotch from some Island off the Scottish coast and loves to lecture you on its alleged superiority over anything else coming out of a cask.... grin

Actually after maybe 6-8 or so 280's,I have found the cartridge more temperamental and stubborn as to both accuracy and velocity than the 270. Mention the 7 Rem mag to these savants and they sneer down their noses and dismiss greater powder capacity...their pet is magic and is its equal....at less pressure no lessl... laugh

It's hilarious! I never tire of it. 280 lovers enjoy picking fly shidt out of pepper..

338 I'm wintering fine thanks,loading a lot of 7 Rem mag without the need for making up stuff about 24" barrels and higher pressures.....Laffin.


I like the .280. With a grain or two extra powder, it is ballistically identical to the wonderful .270 but in .284. A Featherweight .280 would be really nifty. I have only played with 3-4 .280s, but unlike Bob, have not found the .280 temperamental. I would give that title to the old '06, though.


I respect both or your opinions. However, I've never had a finicky 30-06. Even though I've owned more than 20 of the damn things. Well, I forgot about the 30-06 I bought from DMD. It had bedding issues which was honestly disclosed upon purchase. It shot great after re-bedding: I can see where this one would appear to be finicky. Here's a quote from JB on the subject of 270 win and 280 rem:

Originally Posted by Mule Deer
In my experience the standard .270 Winchester is a great killer on a wide variety of plains game.

Apparently this is also the experience of a lot of hunters in Africa, especially South Africa, because it is quite popular there.

I have considerable experience with the .270 myself, as well as the .280 Remington and .280 AI. They are all pretty much peas in a pod. You can make arguments for the .280's with paper ballistics, but game all dies about the same when you hit them right with any of the three.

Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

BSA MAGA