Also, I just finished load envelopment on my new Kimber Montana 25-06, and I hit the lands way before I reached COAL or MAX magazine length with sierra game kings. So what gives? Are Kimbers all over the place on this or what? I was actually happy with the way my 25-06 worked out as I was able to kiss the lands before I ran out of usable magazine length. Thats why I was a little shocked to see the direct opposite on my 22-250....lol