so far I have tried to brands of packable raingear. my experience is they work fine the first couple times I use them. Then they start to leak in the shoulder area and soak my shoulders. I have tried cabelas brand which isn't exactly cheap. I have tried another red ledge I think it was, I bought it from sportsmans wharehouse. Short of going to a poncho or a trash bag is there anything else out there that actually works?