Best opinion on the subject that I know of is;

"He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him." Prov. 13:24



Yes, I cling to my guns too.



"An open message for all Democrats; "Look you are nothing and your work is worthless. Anyone who chooses you is detestable."
Isaiah 41:24 (HCSB)