I'll be damned if I can say the new ones rattle vs the old ones... never seen that at all.

I agree though, the AR hands down wins every category.

But I still love the feel of the M14/M1A over the AR, even though I"m so used to the AR shooting it competition wise since 89 to 04.

mini 14 first and last part of hatred for that gun is because its a ruger. Thats enough for me to never own one of them.

We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....