For Pete's sake. Let's not suck the fun out of the thread entirely. I was just interested to see what folks have done with rifles that haven't been blue-printed, stocks changed, barrels swapped, etc. Yes, a rifle without sights needs iron or glass. Shrap, God bless your eyes. I can't read the newspaper without glasses much less see iron. If we carry a rifle much it will need a sling or strap. But I don't think adding a scope or sling is quite the same as having the entire rig so reworked that the only thing left that's original is the firing pin.