Model 12 16 ga is on the 20 ga frame. Pros are quality all steel construction, excellent trigger, weight-less than the 20-and balance. They don't make a pump shotgun today with the quality mechanicals and care that went into the Model 12 and probably never will again.

Rem 870 16's are on the 12 frame and end up weighing as much or more than a 12. What then is the advantage? Might has well have the 12, which is more versatile when you consider shell variety.

Don't underestimate balance and how the Winchester handles. With the exception of the Ithaca 37 featherweight 16-another excellent choice-no pump comes close.

Last edited by battue; 08/01/16.

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