The first bull elk I ever saw killed was at about 350 yards with a 30/06 and factory 150 PP loads; the rifle a post 64 M70 and 3X Weaver IIRC.Fist shot a bit far back and staggered him, but the second through the chest and collapsed.

I remember thinking the elk did not look too tough to me, contrary to what I had read....and the 30/06 was no punk cartridge.The 150 PP would not have been my first choice for elk but goes to show what I knew. Guy had been killing elk and mule deer with that combo for years.

Incidentally, the (old and now discontinued)270 gr 375 H&H Winchester factory bullet had a jacket of bronze,and was a tough, reliable bullet. IIRC even Finn Aagard used that load in Africa and the bullet had a good performance record. I recommended the load to a non hand loading pal who took it to Alaska for brown bear. It worked well.




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.