Kelly thanks - that is a handy 243, had one in 7/08 in the past.

MJ, that new 6.5 Grendel would be a low recoil ie fast recovery option, and should be about as effective as the Mini 308 Rusky round....and reach out when needed. I had thought of those for other purposes in the past, very close to a BR.

Re: Levers, I kick myself selling my old Marlin 357, light bark and bite but spit 158s a 2050, not sure what a lighter 110-140 would have done.

Mackay, I am listening, so the "performance" is apparently easily tips to the Semi platform. In that case, for closer range work, would one be best to use a 223 16" ?

How do the 223 and 308 compare with common ammo, on various barriers? Anyone? Thanks. I am speaking to say under 200 yds.

While on long guns, what shotguns do you guys like? Thinking an 870 in 20 or 12G, with a 21-26" - or similar semi.