Eddie and 358 norma are spot on. My trade has loads of guys with patches on their shirts and class time,but their work is crap. The reps in certain trades and products barely have real world experience. I've had several cerakote jobs done. Karl ' s has hands down held up the best. Eddie even helped answer some questions and responded while on vacation. I'm sure Eddie has the same quality, and to refer another applicator in the same trade speaks volumes