Originally Posted by BarryC
Thanks guys.
I've shot a lot of squirrels and never cared for the penetration of 7 1/2s. 6s do fine on gray squirrels but I move to 5s if I think I might see some reds.

Just wondering how comparable a pheasant is. I'm new to bird hunting.


Roosters are pretty tough on the gamebird spectrum. It's no big trick to knock down a limit of grouse with 7.5 or 8 shot. Even if you get a cripple the dog will almost always find the bird because they wimp out with a pellet or two in them. If you don't kill or break a pheasants legs, they hit the ground running and you'd better have a dog with that gets after them or you'll lose the bird.


Originally Posted by shrapnel
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.