OK. thank you for the two replies. I did make up some test loads. 20 with 5.0 gr, and 20 with 5.4 Gr. the 5.0 loads shot good but, maybe, mild. the 5.4 gr loads puckered the primers just a tad, not bad. I settled on a load of 5.2 gr. loaded 20 of them, shot great. Have started loading 2000 of them. Thanks, Wallace