Guys, come on, I know all that about the 165s. I've been using them for 30yrs. They are perfect for what I use them for, not any better than what 150s do in my 7x57, but fine. I'm looking for a heavy slower bullet that will perform well on deer, so I can find a use for my 30-06. Please let us get back on track. Captdavid


"It's not how hard you hit 'em, it's where you hit 'em." The 30-06 will, with the right bullet, successfully take any game animal in North America up to 300yds.

If you are a hunter, and farther than that, get closer!