thanks, gunner. they range from ~6# to ~8# for the '86s
have an '86 made in 1891, but it's a .45-90, the crescent butt plate is kind of a pain, and the long heavy barrel is a deal breaker...
and most of 'em have shared the woods with big bears.
Sweet, that's what they're made for, my '86 45-70 is the little half round half octagon rifle with a 24" barrel and half mag, it's plenty handy for an '86.
ANY critter short of Elephant can be handily taken inside 125 yards, it shoots really well with black powder.
